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0 pointsmarcosdumay1y ago0 comments

> This kind of planning is _necessary_ for traditional engineering projects

People keep repeating that, without any empirical evidence at all. If it were only software developers justifying a body of knowledge, it would be ok, but all kinds of people keep repeating that.

Yet, that kind of planning predictably fails every single time in every single engineering practice.

I can guarantee you, if an engineer designs the structure of a bridge, send it to a crew to construct, and go away to only test after it's done, the bridge will fall down before it's even built.

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bluGill1y ago

the fault is not allowing time to test and fix in the right places not in wanting a schedule.

marcosdumayOP1y ago

The schedule also does never work anyway.

Passing a design down and going away doesn't work. Scheduling tasks before you star them doesn't work. Testing only at the end doesn't work.

The one thing civil engineering has that resembles PMBoK is designing things beforehand. And only civil engineering does that, only because they can't prototype.

colechristensen1y ago

The benefit of a Gantt chart isn't meeting deadlines, it is organizing work. You have all of the steps and what each of them depends on and a timeline. If something slips you know how to update your estimates for everything downstream. If several things are at risk you can see which ones have more critical time constraints and allocate resources effectively.

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bluGill1y ago

civial engineerin, is often small variation on every other structrure. as suchiit is easy to estimate as things didn't change. when things are very different is when they overrun schedules.

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0 pointsmarcosdumay1y ago0 comments

> This kind of planning is _necessary_ for traditional engineering projects

People keep repeating that, without any empirical evidence at all. If it were only software developers justifying a body of knowledge, it would be ok, but all kinds of people keep repeating that.

Yet, that kind of planning predictably fails every single time in every single engineering practice.

I can guarantee you, if an engineer designs the structure of a bridge, send it to a crew to construct, and go away to only test after it's done, the bridge will fall down before it's even built.

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bluGill1y ago

the fault is not allowing time to test and fix in the right places not in wanting a schedule.

marcosdumayOP1y ago

The schedule also does never work anyway.

Passing a design down and going away doesn't work. Scheduling tasks before you star them doesn't work. Testing only at the end doesn't work.

The one thing civil engineering has that resembles PMBoK is designing things beforehand. And only civil engineering does that, only because they can't prototype.

colechristensen1y ago

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bluGill1y ago

civial engineerin, is often small variation on every other structrure. as suchiit is easy to estimate as things didn't change. when things are very different is when they overrun schedules.

j / k navigate · click thread line to collapse