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0 pointslukan1y ago0 comments

"For that matter, will Discord still be here next year?"

Probably way more likely, than a random volunteer. Kling said they used discord because it was easy. No energy spend there. Migrating the communication structure is work and energy. Friction.

But so far I also did not followed developement closely, because I did not set up discord yet and do not really want to. But I realize I am not in the majority here and I do not think I am in a position to demand anything here. Your words sound a bit like demanding something.

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pferde1y ago· 2 in thread

Not demanding, sorry if it came out like that. :) Just a bit of constructive criticism.

As for random volunteers disappearing, the protection against that is easy - increase the bus factor, by multiple people having necessary access, and by keeping your infrastructure documented. This should be table stakes for any project that becomes even marginally popular.

Then, if a random volunteer disappears, things might slow down due to lack of manpower, sure, but not come to a screeching halt.

You can't increase bus factor with Discord, since it's out of your control.

lukanOP1y ago

"As for random volunteers disappearing, the protection against that is easy - increase the bus factor, by multiple people having necessary access"

That is not easy. It works till the first drama and then some angry person deletes it all, or changes and takes the keys with them. So you have to really take care who to trust.

"If the project leadership does not see a value in using open infrastructure"

And I do not think he ever said that. He just said it was easier this way for the moment. Not that discord is meant to be the solution till eternity.

pferde1y ago

Sure, nightmare scenarios can happen, but how often do they, really? There are many successful FOSS projects who have teams of volunteers taking care of infrastructure in this way for years, if not decades, and how many bad situations have we had overall?

Simply put, this approach is proven to work. We can always "butwhatif?" ourselves into a corner and get paralyzed because of that, but it's senseless.

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