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0 pointshobs1y ago0 comments

It's funny that you mentioned apple because their system shortcuts are integrated as hell and they even let you map them in the OS -> App level, way better than anything MS has ever shipped.

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jwells891y ago· 4 in thread

Yep, among other things both Apple-unique and emacs-esque text navigation shortcuts are in every native textfield across all apps and anything that's a menu item in any app can have its shortcut key rebound in System Settings without any extra work on the part of third-party devs.

It's one of the reasons why longtime Mac users are disinclined towards non-native apps. Most don't bother to reproduce these behaviors, and so when you as a user go to reach for these features that you have muscle memory for and they're not there, it's like hitting a brick wall in the middle of your workflow and makes the app in question feel basic and unrefined.

hobsOP1y ago

Don't forget you can type any of those menu items in the help dialog and it will not only tell you where it is, and not only let you activate it, it will helpfully show you the deeply nested set of submenus required to activate it.

Oh and of course those shortcuts are activateable by other applications to simplify app integration.

jimbobthrowawy1y ago

I sorely miss that menu search feature from macOS, even though it was unity's HUD on ubuntu that got me used to it in the first place. It's a shame it didn't become a more common feature, especially for programs with hundreds of options in the menu bar.

Hamuko1y ago

Annoyingly enough you don't really all keyboard shortcuts out of the box even if you build natively. If you create a Button(role: .destructive).keyboardShortcut(.defaultAction) in a SwiftUI dialog, you don't get Cmd+D as the shortcut even though Finder (and I think other apps too) uses Cmd+D as the keyboard shortcut for destructive confirmation dialogs. Thankfully at least a Button without destructive role will get Enter as its keyboard shortcut in the same context.

jwells891y ago

Yeah for now I keep most of my usage of SwiftUI restricted to non-Mac platforms. On macOS it’s fine for smaller bits like collectionview cells but has a number of rough edges for more major use cases.

ricopags1y ago

It's never been better than what MS had and if you think so you've never used the MS way as I do.

Alt+underlined letter with no menus opens opens whichever menu maps to that letter

After which any [unique, as they mostly are] underlined letter activates the press for that menu item.

There is no equivalent to the speed of this in OSX, even with third party software.

Very very happy to be proven wrong on this

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