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0 pointsicedchai1y ago0 comments

I'd tell them I am not shutting up and this is a major problem affecting the quality of the product. I would then speak to the boss's boss about it and start complaining about the boss doing a poor job, encouraging fake, meaningless metrics to game the system. Maybe they'll get get fed up and tell you to GTFO. Probably not though. The thing about broken organizations is that they take forever to fire anyone, so use that to your advantage while you look for other jobs.

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9999000009991y ago

That seems like a whole lot of work, compared to just finding another job and walking out .

I'm not trying to change the world, I'm trying to make money so I can save and retire preferably before I turn 50.

If I've learned anything about life is that you need to pick what battles you want to fight.

If option A is argue with numerous people and openly expose multiple layers of incompetence, to the point where my manager and my coworkers are going to hate me .

Compared to, option B , keeping my head down until I can jump ship and then hoping the next place isn't as bad.

I'm picking B.

You gain nothing by going above and beyond your pay grade.

icedchaiOP1y ago

I mean, if you don't care about the company, product, or project, then yes, you are right. Lay low and move on. Some fights definitely aren't worth it. If you do care about more than your paycheck, maybe it is.

And do you really care if some incompetent hates you? I hate working with incompetent people, so some mutual feelings are perfectly fine. It may even improve the situation, at least temporarily: They'll reduce their interactions with you to avoid conflict, since most people are rather conflict avoidant.

recursive1y ago

Bad impressions can be contagious. Some "incompetents" have political capital.

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9999000009991y ago

>I mean, if you don't care about the company, product, or project, then yes, you are right. Lay low and move on. Some fights definitely aren't worth it. If you do care about more than your paycheck, maybe it is.

Exactly!

I do not care about anything in regards to a job outside of my paycheck. I'm not trying to change the world. I have no expectation of anything I'm doing making a real difference.

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sgarland1y ago

> The thing about broken organizations is that they take forever to fire anyone, so use that to your advantage while you look for other jobs.

My last place was horrendously broken in many aspects, and fired people at the drop of a hat.

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9999000009991y ago

That seems like a whole lot of work, compared to just finding another job and walking out .

I'm not trying to change the world, I'm trying to make money so I can save and retire preferably before I turn 50.

If I've learned anything about life is that you need to pick what battles you want to fight.

If option A is argue with numerous people and openly expose multiple layers of incompetence, to the point where my manager and my coworkers are going to hate me .

Compared to, option B , keeping my head down until I can jump ship and then hoping the next place isn't as bad.

I'm picking B.

You gain nothing by going above and beyond your pay grade.

icedchaiOP1y ago

recursive1y ago

Bad impressions can be contagious. Some "incompetents" have political capital.

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9999000009991y ago

Exactly!

I do not care about anything in regards to a job outside of my paycheck. I'm not trying to change the world. I have no expectation of anything I'm doing making a real difference.

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sgarland1y ago

> The thing about broken organizations is that they take forever to fire anyone, so use that to your advantage while you look for other jobs.

My last place was horrendously broken in many aspects, and fired people at the drop of a hat.

j / k navigate · click thread line to collapse