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0 pointsPaulWaldman1y ago0 comments

I understand the cost to the end user is much less, but in what ways is their technology more advanced?

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> in what ways is their technology more advanced?

BYD's technology, not so much--they're better at manufacturing cars in degrees compared to Tesla, not an order of magnitude.

The magic is at CATL and friends. There is a Cambrian explosion of battery technology in China that doesn't get reported super well in the mainstream press.

HeatrayEnjoyer1y ago

What's going on with battery technology?

JumpCrisscross1y ago

> What's going on with battery technology?

Iron [1] and now sodium [2].

[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium_iron_phosphate_batte...

[2] https://www.electrive.com/2023/11/20/byd-huaihai-move-on-pla...

mensetmanusman1y ago

Mostly cost reductions, there isn’t much room in the physics for higher energy density. Eg it will always be less than chemical energy density.

nox1011y ago

Cars that change in 10 minutes?

https://ev.com/news/byd-and-catl-set-to-introduce-ev-batteri...

HeatrayEnjoyer1y ago

How would that even be supplied? Megawatt circuits are the domain of industrial factories, not "gas" stations.

JumpCrisscross1y ago

> How would that even be supplied?

Capacitors.

andruby1y ago

The article states that it would need 650KW to charge at 6C rates.

Huawei has already announced 600 kW DC fast chargers: https://asia.nikkei.com/Spotlight/Electric-cars-in-China/Chi...

HeatrayEnjoyer1y ago

The bottleneck is the grid not terminal hardware. If a home or small business asks for a multiple MW circuit they're going to be laughed at for preposterousness. Laying harmless gigabit fiber to a new area requires permits, construction, labor, think of what becomes necessary when it's enough electrons to kill a dinosaur.

richardw1y ago

Just one example:

https://www.drive.com.au/news/byd-to-introduce-new-second-ge...

They’re doing a lot of licensing to western companies.

defrost1y ago

Adding to the other peer reasons, staggering range of design styles and price points; executive class, cheap fun young cars, utility vehicles, etc.

cyberax1y ago

The UI is _miles_ ahead. And they are preparing to release a 1000 km (620 mile) range vehicle.

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JumpCrisscross1y ago

> in what ways is their technology more advanced?

BYD's technology, not so much--they're better at manufacturing cars in degrees compared to Tesla, not an order of magnitude.

The magic is at CATL and friends. There is a Cambrian explosion of battery technology in China that doesn't get reported super well in the mainstream press.

HeatrayEnjoyer1y ago

What's going on with battery technology?

JumpCrisscross1y ago

> What's going on with battery technology?

Iron [1] and now sodium [2].

[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium_iron_phosphate_batte...

[2] https://www.electrive.com/2023/11/20/byd-huaihai-move-on-pla...

mensetmanusman1y ago

Mostly cost reductions, there isn’t much room in the physics for higher energy density. Eg it will always be less than chemical energy density.

nox1011y ago

Cars that change in 10 minutes?

https://ev.com/news/byd-and-catl-set-to-introduce-ev-batteri...

HeatrayEnjoyer1y ago

How would that even be supplied? Megawatt circuits are the domain of industrial factories, not "gas" stations.

JumpCrisscross1y ago

> How would that even be supplied?

Capacitors.

andruby1y ago

The article states that it would need 650KW to charge at 6C rates.

Huawei has already announced 600 kW DC fast chargers: https://asia.nikkei.com/Spotlight/Electric-cars-in-China/Chi...

HeatrayEnjoyer1y ago

richardw1y ago

Just one example:

https://www.drive.com.au/news/byd-to-introduce-new-second-ge...

They’re doing a lot of licensing to western companies.

defrost1y ago

Adding to the other peer reasons, staggering range of design styles and price points; executive class, cheap fun young cars, utility vehicles, etc.

cyberax1y ago

The UI is _miles_ ahead. And they are preparing to release a 1000 km (620 mile) range vehicle.

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