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0 pointsthrowawayffffas2y ago0 comments

I think you are both right.

Snowden and Manning broke the oaths they took.

Assange is guilty of espionage.

> but Assange isn't American, not US permanent resident, and he has no duty to be loyal to the US.

That's besides the point, for example if a CIA agent is in China gathering intelligence on classified things, he is clearly guilty of espionage. You don't have to be a citizen or a permanent resident or have a duty to be loyal to a country to be spy.

edit: typo

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impossiblefork2y ago· 2 in thread

Yes, but that doesn't mean that the CIA agent is a criminal.

Consequently, if arrested in, let's say, Thailand and handed over to China he will presumably not confess to espionage, just as Assange should not. He will instead presumably regard the procedure as irrelevant and say nothing.

By entering into a guilty plea he is participating in a legal procedure which is bullshit, and by legitimising it he causes harm to others who would seek to obtain information about war crimes from foreign countries.

throwawayffffasOP2y ago

The CIA agent is not a criminal in the US. For the Chinese government he is a criminal.

impossiblefork2y ago

Of course, but from his PoV he is not, so he should not participate in or legitimise a procedure in a Chinese court.

Consequently, entering a plea, and particularly a guilty plea, should not be done.

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