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15 pointsjoseferben2y ago14 comments

i'm building this minimalistic framework mostly for myself. it's really just a project template + a tiny library that adds file based routes to express and persistent task queues.

i wanted something that:

1. is a single long-running process to deploy and manage (thanks sqlite!)

2. has type-safe database queries and type-safe server rendered React-like `.tsx` components

3. addresses 80% of common full-stack concerns like emails, task queues and routing

4. doesn't have a frontend build process

curious to hear what you think!

Show HN: Simpler web dev with Htmx, SQLite and TypeScript

(plainweb.dev)

15 pointsjoseferben2y ago14 comments

i'm building this minimalistic framework mostly for myself. it's really just a project template + a tiny library that adds file based routes to express and persistent task queues.

i wanted something that:

1. is a single long-running process to deploy and manage (thanks sqlite!)

2. has type-safe database queries and type-safe server rendered React-like `.tsx` components

3. addresses 80% of common full-stack concerns like emails, task queues and routing

4. doesn't have a frontend build process

curious to hear what you think!

14 comments

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meiraleal2y ago· 2 in thread

4. doesn't have a frontend build process

I'm curious about how does that work? TypeScript isn't supported in the browser nor is JSX.

joseferbenOP2y ago

JSX components (.tsx) are rendered server-side, it's all just GET/POST with optional HTMX

meiraleal2y ago

So the frontend is built in the server on every request. That's the opposite of not having a frontend build process

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stagas2y ago· 1 in thread

This looks really good!

> 4. doesn't have a frontend build process

Is it entirely server-side and then it's all htmx? Is there a way to also hook client-only TS/components for more complex/interactive stuff? Or is that out of scope entirely?

joseferbenOP2y ago

thank you!

yes, it's server-side with htmx at the moment. anything client-side that has a build process is entirely out of scope as i think that's a major source of complexity.

i'm considering embracing alpine.js for when htmx is not enough, just need to make sure the alpine directives are type-safe.

i think it's exciting what astro, hono or fresh are doing with islands of interactivity but plainweb tries to be even more minimalistic.

russdpale2y ago· 1 in thread

ditch typescript and Im more with you.. you'll never convince me that something that compiles to js is "simplicity".

joseferbenOP2y ago

would you say running bun or deno would be simpler since compilation doesn’t happen in “user land”?

platic2y ago· 1 in thread

Looks great. Going to give it a try for sure.

joseferbenOP2y ago

awesome, let me know how it goes!

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