Either we say that people are free to express their opinions, or we punish people for saying things we don't like. Can't have both at the same time.
The other guy used the argument "but the US constitution guarantees freedom of speech" yeah so does North Korean, argument invalid.
I don't understand why this step "if people can be punished for saying something then they don't have freedom of speech" isn't an obvious logical statement.
> but the US constitution guarantees freedom of speech" yeah so does North Korean, argument invalid.
Well courts in the US are somewhat independent and generally tend to usually adhere to that part of the US constitution when making decisions. North Korean courts? Not so much... Obviously it's a spectrum since the world is not black and white but I really don't quite understand what are you trying to say.
Are you seriously claiming that you don't see a fundamental difference between the US and North Korea in this case? Or do you just want someone to spend their time compiling a list of Supreme Court decisions relating to freedom of speech?
This is the problem because 99% of people are effectively dependent on their employers, and there's huge power imbalance between employers and employees.
In Europe there's a specific list of reasons which can result in work contract termination. This means that the employer cannot fire me just because I posted on Facebook "vote for party X for better future". This means that I feel free to post this because I know nobody will ruin my life over that.
In most US states there's a specific list of reasons why people cannot be fired - which means they can be fired for all other reasons, and "posting on Facebook that you support given party" does not belong to that list, which means that you can be fired for that, which effectively makes you think twice before you say things publicly.
I really don't think that "you don't go to jail but you have your life ruined by being fired and becoming unemployable" is such a fantastic deal and an example of freedom of speech.
You are still failing to understand that nobody is prosecuted for what they say in the US. What is prosecuted is the damages incurred from what is said, such as damage to reputation in the case of defamation or physical/financial harm in the case of false marketing.
If you can't understand that, you need to go back and do your homework before you continuing discussing freedom of speech.
