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0 pointsuxcolumbo1y ago0 comments

With conscious stuff I’m assuming you mean conscious beings.

It is against the law to murder another human. In many countries it is also against the law to kill or torture your pet. Are you not living your life according to those agreed upon ‘reasoning’?

As humanity evolves, the circle of compassion and common sense will expand to also include those conscious beings that we currently don’t deem worthy of compassion, since having a factory farmed burger on our plate is currently more important than reducing our carbon footprint, pollution, habitat destruction, deforestation or simply not inflicting pain and suffering on sentient beings.

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Aerbil3131y ago

It's important to notice that you are not providing any counter-argument here at all.

One can live his life one way due to practicality and believe in another. In fact, if this is any news, almost everyone disagree with their country's laws in at least some matters. This doesn't mean anything.

I believe that killing some conscious stuff is OK and others bad, but not because me or others feel bad or good about it or because the ones I agree to kill taste good. Because believe in a complete moral system that isn't based on another human's fallible reasoning or worse, feelings.

guilhas1y ago

So our evolved consciousness will be superior to other animals that still eat other animals

uxcolumboOP1y ago

Other animals don't raise billions of other animals to cram them into factory farms, deprive them of natural surroundings, pump them full of hormones and antibiotics and then send them off to slaughterhouses to turn them into burgers and other meat products.

Animals live with nature. We don't. We created our own world on top of the natural world, which we are slowly destroying.

We have the brains, skills and resources to maintain and improve our living standards without destroying the natural world. But we choose not to vote with our wallet.

We in the Western world don't need to kill and eat animals anymore to survive. It's purely out of taste pleasure, habit and because 'we have always done it'.

EDIT: watch this video to see the reality of industrial animal farming:

http://www.nationearth.com/

Aerbil3131y ago

Please realize that you are not, in fact, providing a counter argument.

I agree that the modern livestock raising and slaughter practices are not good. But not because it just doesn't look wholesome. Neither surgical operations nor the sewage system look very wholesome.

randomdata1y ago

> Other animals don't raise billions of other animals to cram them into factory farms

Sure they do. For example, certain ants are known to keep livestock.

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Aerbil3131y ago

It's important to notice that you are not providing any counter-argument here at all.

guilhas1y ago

So our evolved consciousness will be superior to other animals that still eat other animals

uxcolumboOP1y ago

Animals live with nature. We don't. We created our own world on top of the natural world, which we are slowly destroying.

We have the brains, skills and resources to maintain and improve our living standards without destroying the natural world. But we choose not to vote with our wallet.

We in the Western world don't need to kill and eat animals anymore to survive. It's purely out of taste pleasure, habit and because 'we have always done it'.

EDIT: watch this video to see the reality of industrial animal farming:

http://www.nationearth.com/

Aerbil3131y ago

Please realize that you are not, in fact, providing a counter argument.

I agree that the modern livestock raising and slaughter practices are not good. But not because it just doesn't look wholesome. Neither surgical operations nor the sewage system look very wholesome.

randomdata1y ago

> Other animals don't raise billions of other animals to cram them into factory farms

Sure they do. For example, certain ants are known to keep livestock.

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