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0 pointsanigbrowl2y ago0 comments

Incrementalism normalizes dystopia, in my view; this becomes just another contingency that can be budgeted for.

Imagine, by contrast, the impact that executing one Chiquita executive would have.

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evulhotdog2y ago· 2 in thread

I don’t know if I necessarily agree with eye for an eye mentality, but risk of prison or enough money that it makes you actually consider your decisions, seems like a better path. The goal being that it is enough so that it cannot and should not be planned for and can’t be covered by insurance or similar.

germandiago2y ago

Bukele did not think the same and he was right.

Tao33002y ago

> risk of prison

Ship a couple of them to La Modelo

cscurmudgeon2y ago· 1 in thread

> Incrementalism normalizes dystopia

Radicalism creates dystopia in the first place (e.g., the USSR was far more dystopic).

anigbrowlOP2y ago

It can certainly exacerbate it. I'm less sure about creation; Tsarist Russia was not a nice place for anyone but the aristocracy, and life was also highly precarious in China before Mao came along - the Taiping Rebellion is estimated to have killed as much as 10% of the population, while China's population grew close to 50% during Mao's tenure despite the death of tens of millions from starvation.

I'm not communist, but it has arguably been a good fit for underdeveloped agrarian societies that feel a strategic need to industrialize rapidly without giving up political/industrial autonomy.

https://warwick.ac.uk/fac/soc/economics/staff/mharrison/publ...

digging2y ago

I agree with wanting stronger action, but incremental change isn't incompatible with revolutionary vision. We can say, "Yes, this is a good move, and I still want the other 99% of the work done." It is likely that at some point we'd have to move faster than 1% at a time, but it's easier to get up to speed when you're already moving vs standing still.

debo_2y ago

Perhaps they would hire two executives.

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