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0 pointswraptile1y ago0 comments

Apple's marketing and branding is truly impressive when even Hackernews crowd, who'd you assume are very tech savvy, are eating it up all of the propaganda.

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kstrauser1y ago

“Wow, so many of these people neck deep into tech, privacy, and law disagree with me. It must be because they’re all suckers.”

wraptileOP1y ago

Despite your snark - you'll never win an argument where trusting a for profit corporation is some sort of win over transparent secure system. Yes Apple might be better of the lesser evils but is this really where us as a privileged class of people who actually understand all this give up and give in? This is sad.

kstrauser1y ago

You’ll also never win an argument when assuming that the people you disagree with haven’t thought this through and come up with a different conclusion. The snark is from the implication that we’re either clueless or blind to it. The more likely explanation is that we have different priorities, and that we’re viewing the question from a different angle. That doesn’t make us ignorant or unprincipled, any more than you disagreeing with me makes you naive or unserious.

We have different ideas. That’s all. There’s no need to look down on each other for it.

umanwizard1y ago

There’s not really any transparent secure system that competes with Apple.

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dingnuts1y ago

Uh, friend, this is still just an internet technology enthusiast forum. Popular opinion here is equally as reliable as Reddit. If you are taking hn upvotes as some kind of expert input, you're in for a rough time.

kstrauser1y ago

No argument from me. I was replying to someone who couldn't believe the readers here, "who'd you assume are very tech savvy", didn't agree with their opinions.

jrm41y ago

"Wow, so many of these people disagree with me, it might be because they have a huge dangerous blind spot because of a lack of knowledge and/or experience and/or have trouble seeing things from the outside"

...is a thing I experience on a regular basis (and that I only really gained confidence in once I actually saw the mistakes cause problems, e.g. password managers)

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kstrauser1y ago

“Wow, so many of these people neck deep into tech, privacy, and law disagree with me. It must be because they’re all suckers.”

wraptileOP1y ago

kstrauser1y ago

We have different ideas. That’s all. There’s no need to look down on each other for it.

umanwizard1y ago

There’s not really any transparent secure system that competes with Apple.

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dingnuts1y ago

kstrauser1y ago

No argument from me. I was replying to someone who couldn't believe the readers here, "who'd you assume are very tech savvy", didn't agree with their opinions.

jrm41y ago

...is a thing I experience on a regular basis (and that I only really gained confidence in once I actually saw the mistakes cause problems, e.g. password managers)

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