I would stick to SPEC and Geekbench.
Even Cinebench 2024 isn't too bad nowadays though R23 was quite poor in correlation.
In general, not only are Apple Silicon CPUs faster than AMD consumer CPUs, but they're 2-4x more power efficient as well.
What you want to do is look at the benchmarks for the thing you're actually using it for.
> they're 2-4x more power efficient as well.
This is generally untrue, people come to this conclusion by comparing mobile CPUs with desktop CPUs. CPU power consumption is non-linear with performance, so a large power budget lets you eek out a tiny bit more margin. For example, compare the 65W 5700X with the 105W 5800X. The 40 extra watts buys you around 2% more single thread performance, not because the 5700X has a more efficient design -- they're the exact same CPU with a different power cap. It's because turning up the clock speed a tiny bit uses a lot more power, but desktop CPUs do it anyway, because they don't have any such thing as battery life and people want the extra tiny bit more. Or the CPU simply won't clock any higher and doesn't even hit the rated TDP on single-threaded workloads.
The extra power will buy you a lot more on multi-threaded workloads, because then you get linear performance improvement with more power by adding more cores. But that's where the high core count CPUs will mop the floor with everything else -- while achieving higher performance per watt, because the individual cores are clocked lower and use less power.
The problem with Geekbench is it's trying to average the scores from many different benchmarks, but then if some of them are outliers (e.g. one CPU has hardware acceleration or some other unusual aptitude for that specific workload), it gets an outsized score which is then averaged in and skews the result even if it doesn't generalize.
Geekbench CPU benchmark does not optimize for accelerators. It optimizes for instruction sets only.Apple Silicon also has more memory bandwidth the primary purpose of which is to feed the GPU because most CPU workloads don't care about that, but if you average in the occasional ones that does then you get more outliers.
Which is why the thing that matters is how it performs on the thing you actually want to run on it, not how it performs in aggregate on a bunch of other applications you don't use.
It looks though as if AMD/Intel feel threatened by Snapdragon though - we'll see what AMD Strix / Halo brings for the first meaningful x86 mobile processor in years (or Luna Lake).
It's mostly not. Its real purpose is to improve performance on threaded workloads.
Multi-core CPUs work like this: At the max boost a single core might use, say, 50 watts. So if you have 8 cores and wanted to run them all full out, you'd need a 400 watt power budget, which is a little nuts. It's not even worth it. Because you only have to clock them a little lower, say 4GHz instead of 5, to cut the power consumption more than in half, and then you get a TDP of e.g. 100W. Still not nothing but much more reasonable. You can also cut the clock speed even more and get the power consumption all the way down to 15W, but then you're down to 2GHz on threaded workloads and sacrificing quite a bit of multi-thread performance.
So they're not just trying to eek out a couple of percent, even though that's all you get from single thread improvement, because a single core was already near or at its limit. Whereas 8 cores at 4GHz will be legitimately twice as fast as the same cores at 2GHz. But they'll also use more than twice as much power. Which matters in a laptop but not so much in a desktop.
Of course, the thing that works even better is to have 16 cores or more that are clocked a little lower, which improves performance and performance per watt. The performance per watt of the 96-core Threadrippers are astonishingly good -- even though they're 360W. But that also requires more silicon, so those ones are the expensive ones.
If you downclock that AMD chip, it does get more efficient, but also loses by even larger margins.
I will repeat:
"On Geekbench I gave up after scrolling a few pages."
SPEC doesn't seem to have easily browsable results, but we can find the Cinebench 2024 ones easy and guess what? Apple isn't at the top. Not even close: https://www.cgdirector.com/cinebench-2024-scores/
For Apple you need to go to https://browser.geekbench.com/mac-benchmarks
Then compare numbers by hand I assume.
Though what I would love is compile-time vs. $ (as mentioned, I'm a software developer). The 7950x is $500 and a very fast SSD is $400, fast 64gb is $200, very good board is $400 so I get a very fast dev machine for ~$1700.
ASUS ROG Zephyrus G16 (2024)
Processor: Intel Core Ultra 9 185
Memory: 32GB
Cargo Build: 31.85 seconds
Cargo Build --Release: 1 minute 4 seconds
ASUS ROG Zephyrus G14 (2024)
Processor: AMD Ryzen 8945HS / Radeon 780M
Memory: 32GB
Cargo Build: 29.48 seconds
Cargo Build --Release: 34.78 seconds
ASUS ROG Strix Scar 18 (2024)
Processor: Intel Core i9 14900HX
Memory: 64GB
Cargo Build: 21.27 seconds
Cargo Build --Release: 28.69 seconds
Apple MacBook Pro (M3 Pro 11 core)
Processor: M3 Pro 11 core
Cargo Build: 13.70 seconds
Cargo Build --Release: 21.65 seconds
Apple MacBook Pro 16 (M3 Max)
Processor: M3 Max
Cargo Build: 12.70 seconds
Cargo Build --Release: 15.90 seconds
Firefox Mobile build:
M1 Air: 95 seconds AMD 5900hx: 138 seconds Source: https://youtu.be/QSPFx9R99-o?si=oG_nuV4oiMxjv4F-&t=505
Javascript builds
Here, Alex compares the M1 Air running Parallels emulating Linux vs native Linux on AMD Zen2 mobile. The M1 is still significantly faster. https://youtu.be/tgS1P5bP7dA?si=Xz2JQmgoYp3IQGCX&t=183
Docker builds
Here, Alex runs Docker ARM64 vs AMD x86 images and the M1 Air built the image 2x faster than an AMD Zen2 mobile. https://youtu.be/sWav0WuNMNs?si=IgxeMoJqpQaZv2nc&t=366
Anyways, Alex has a ton more videos on coding performance between Apple, Intel and AMD.
Lastly, this is not M1 vs Zen2 but it's M2 vs Zen4.
LLVM build test
M2 Max: 377 seconds Ryzen 9 7940S: 826 seconds
Speed vs. $ is of course a different story than pure speed; kinda hard to capture in a number I guess.
Most Go projects compile more than fast enough even on my 7 year old i5, although there are exceptions (mostly crummy hyper-overengineered projects).
Note: M3 Max is a 40w CPU maximum, while 7950x is a 230w CPU maximum. The stated 170w max is usually deceptive from AMD.
Source for 7950x power consumption: https://www.anandtech.com/show/17641/lighter-touch-cpu-power....
Note that the M3 Max leads in ST in Cinebench 2024 and 2-3x better in perf/watt. It does lose in MT in Cinebench 2024 but wins in GB6 MT.
Cinebench is usually x86 favored as it favors AVX over NEON as well as having extremely long dependency chains, bottlenecked by caches and partly memory. This is why you get a huge SMT yield from it and why it scales very highly if you throw lots of "weak" cores at it.
This is why Cinebench is a poor CPU benchmark in general as the vast majority of applications do not behave like Cinebench.
Geekbench and SPEC are more predictive of CPU speed.
Here's a content creation benchmark (note that for some tasks a GPU is also used):
https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/mac-vs-pc-for-con...