By that reasoning even humans are not thinking. But of course humans are always excluded from such research - if it's human it's thinking by default, damn the reasoning. Then of course we have snails and dogs and apes, are they thinking? Were the Neanderthals thinking? By which definition? Moving posts is a too weak metaphor for what is going on here where everybody distorts the reasoning for whatever point they're trying to make today. And because I can't shut up I'll just add my user view: if it works like a duck and outputs like a duck, it's duck enough for any practical use, let's move on and see what do we do with it (like, use or harness or adopt or...).
> “By that reasoning even humans are not thinking”
I’m a neophyte, so take this as such. If we can agree that people output is not always the product of thinking, then I’d be more willing to accept computational innovations as thought-like.
