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0 pointstasuki1y ago0 comments

> If someone put a gun to your head [...]

That would be a rather easy choice to make!

We aren't entitled to a roof over head and food etc, that's all I'm saying. We should be grateful when we happen to luck into circumstances (such as a job) that allow us to have roof/food. It's not something everyone has.

Saying we were involuntarily forced into having a job/roof/food feels very strange when compared with the people who weren't forced to have either of these three things.

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CooCooCaCha1y ago

We are entitled to a roof and food and it’s a tragedy that some people don’t have those things.

You’re not being empathetic by saying the opposite, you’re giving assholes with power an excuse to take those things away or make it harder to provide them to people.

I don’t understand why you’d say we’re being forced to have food and shelter, that makes no sense. We need food and shelter, which is why employment isn’t voluntary.

tasukiOP1y ago

> We are entitled to a roof and food

What does that mean even?

> it’s a tragedy that some people don’t have those things.

Agreed.

> I don’t understand why you’d say we’re being forced to have food and shelter, that makes no sense.

I was trying to take your position to the absurd extreme. You said employment was not voluntary, I took that to mean that you're forced to have food and shelter.

> We need food and shelter, which is why employment isn’t voluntary.

I don't know how else to explain this to you. As an objective fact, there are people who choose not to work. They do without. Some of them even manage to lead fulfilling lives. How can you pretend it's not a choice?

CooCooCaCha1y ago

Seriously? You're really doubling down on this argument that technically there are people who choose not to work?

What a stupid, disingenuous fucking argument. You realize for the vast majority of people, food and shelter are top priority right? This is the foundation of Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs.

> What does that mean even?

Since I apparently need to explain the basics to you, entitled means "believing oneself to be inherently deserving". So yes, I think every human is entitled to food and shelter.

If socialism was a club, I'd take away your membership. Jesus christ.

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0 pointstasuki1y ago0 comments

> If someone put a gun to your head [...]

That would be a rather easy choice to make!

Saying we were involuntarily forced into having a job/roof/food feels very strange when compared with the people who weren't forced to have either of these three things.

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CooCooCaCha1y ago

We are entitled to a roof and food and it’s a tragedy that some people don’t have those things.

You’re not being empathetic by saying the opposite, you’re giving assholes with power an excuse to take those things away or make it harder to provide them to people.

I don’t understand why you’d say we’re being forced to have food and shelter, that makes no sense. We need food and shelter, which is why employment isn’t voluntary.

tasukiOP1y ago

> We are entitled to a roof and food

What does that mean even?

> it’s a tragedy that some people don’t have those things.

Agreed.

> I don’t understand why you’d say we’re being forced to have food and shelter, that makes no sense.

I was trying to take your position to the absurd extreme. You said employment was not voluntary, I took that to mean that you're forced to have food and shelter.

> We need food and shelter, which is why employment isn’t voluntary.

CooCooCaCha1y ago

Seriously? You're really doubling down on this argument that technically there are people who choose not to work?

What a stupid, disingenuous fucking argument. You realize for the vast majority of people, food and shelter are top priority right? This is the foundation of Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs.

> What does that mean even?

Since I apparently need to explain the basics to you, entitled means "believing oneself to be inherently deserving". So yes, I think every human is entitled to food and shelter.

If socialism was a club, I'd take away your membership. Jesus christ.

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