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0 pointscarlmr1y ago0 comments

Exactly, it's a bad error message if you need to read 8 pages of tutorial to get that basic feedback.

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jfyi1y ago

Let's take a look at how the big boys handle something similar...

SELECT * FROM logs WHERE KEY = 'blah' LIMIT 10;

/* SQL Error (1064): You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MariaDB server version for the right syntax to use near 'KEY = 'blah' LIMIT 10' at line 1 */

I think there is some expectation of technical literacy for the use of a database. This would include being able to familiarize yourself with naming conventions and keywords.

I have personally never seen a database that gives detailed error messages like was requested and I'd be excited to see an example.

dvdkon1y ago

Yes, the error messages of modern SQL databases suck. On that note, SQL itself sucks (the two problems might be related). But that's no excuse to not do better. Besides, BeeBase seems more user-focused than MariaDB, presenting itself as a nice GUI tool. "Real developers" might not need good error messages, but they also don't need a GUI and would sooner use some unholy bash-sed-awk-Perl mixture.

jfyi1y ago

Are you aware of non SQL databases that give detailed errors?

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kazinator1y ago

There is only so much room in one page of a tutorial; not everything can be on page 1.

mynameisvlad1y ago

Its OSS, you are free to change that if you don’t like it.

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jfyi1y ago

Let's take a look at how the big boys handle something similar...

SELECT * FROM logs WHERE KEY = 'blah' LIMIT 10;

/* SQL Error (1064): You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MariaDB server version for the right syntax to use near 'KEY = 'blah' LIMIT 10' at line 1 */

I think there is some expectation of technical literacy for the use of a database. This would include being able to familiarize yourself with naming conventions and keywords.

I have personally never seen a database that gives detailed error messages like was requested and I'd be excited to see an example.

dvdkon1y ago

jfyi1y ago

Are you aware of non SQL databases that give detailed errors?

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kazinator1y ago

There is only so much room in one page of a tutorial; not everything can be on page 1.

mynameisvlad1y ago

Its OSS, you are free to change that if you don’t like it.

j / k navigate · click thread line to collapse