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0 pointsjiggawatts1y ago0 comments

Nowhere in the linked article does it say that his identity was censored or revoked by any government.

He's a dual-citizen and presumably has his identifying papers on hand.

To quote Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugene_Shvidler#Sanctions

     Shvidler's sanctions take the form of a worldwide asset freeze, 
     and transport sanctions; they do not affect his British citizenship.

Painting a free billionaire oligarch living the high life abroad from Russia as a victim is not a very convincing example.

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spacebanana71y ago

The challenge wasn’t precisely about revocation of citizenship, although you could take the example of Shamina Begum for that.

The problem with these rulings isn’t so much that no punishment is deserved, but that a government minister / civil service employee can declare somebody guilty. The only recourse is pursuing legal action to prove your own innocence.

jiggawattsOP1y ago

You seem to be conflating two wildly unrelated concepts here.

This discourse is (very specifically!) about identity papers, not sanctions or any other form of government use and abuse of power.

spacebanana71y ago

The thread has drifted from government identity to censorship, then to sanctions and abuse of power.

It’s faithful to the original topic because strong government identity assists state actors who pursue those outcomes.

Macha1y ago

The crypto people are very concerned about what happens to them when they believe they will inevitably become an oligarch.

It's all a bit "temporarily embarrassed billionaire"

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0 pointsjiggawatts1y ago0 comments

Nowhere in the linked article does it say that his identity was censored or revoked by any government.

He's a dual-citizen and presumably has his identifying papers on hand.

To quote Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugene_Shvidler#Sanctions

     Shvidler's sanctions take the form of a worldwide asset freeze, 
     and transport sanctions; they do not affect his British citizenship.

Painting a free billionaire oligarch living the high life abroad from Russia as a victim is not a very convincing example.

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spacebanana71y ago

The challenge wasn’t precisely about revocation of citizenship, although you could take the example of Shamina Begum for that.

jiggawattsOP1y ago

You seem to be conflating two wildly unrelated concepts here.

This discourse is (very specifically!) about identity papers, not sanctions or any other form of government use and abuse of power.

spacebanana71y ago

The thread has drifted from government identity to censorship, then to sanctions and abuse of power.

It’s faithful to the original topic because strong government identity assists state actors who pursue those outcomes.

Macha1y ago

The crypto people are very concerned about what happens to them when they believe they will inevitably become an oligarch.

It's all a bit "temporarily embarrassed billionaire"

j / k navigate · click thread line to collapse