And without the vaccines they would likely have had worse symptoms as well as potentially had symptomatic covid even more times than they did.

In other words the fact that vaccinated people contracted covid does _not_ mean the vaccines didn’t protect them from the disease.

Protecting people from COVID involves more than preventing them from contracting the illness. It reduced mortality and hospitalizations. Compare the mortality rate in a country like Brazil to the US and tell me again how the vaccines didn't protect people from COVID.

I seriously don't get this antivax nonsense. People get the flu after a flu vaccine sometimes too. The point is to not have a naive immune system if all other defenses fail.

That’s dumb. If you can take something that will reduce a potentially deadly disease to some mild symptoms for a few days it’s effectively a cure.