I totally agree that it's ridiculous and sucks to do, but that also sounds like incredibly high ROI on your time.
Spending a month filling out paperwork to save every dev in the company 15 minutes a day or whatever would be a massive win. Like an "I deserve a promotion" level win.
I get what you mean, though. I've fought to bring products in a couple of times, and it's one of my least favorite tasks. It's endless meetings, and nobody on the other teams is super helpful because they're not going to get a bonus if this works out.
Edit: Another thought; spending your time making procurement easier might also be a worthwhile endeavor, if you could get the buy-in from someone that procurement will listen to.
- it costs them nothing to 'reach out'
- your company might not be so bureaucratic
- you might be willing to set up shadow IT (run software without permission)
- you might move to another company that is more permissive
- they might be able to roll up developer interest into an enterprise-level sales pitch
So I'd really rather most didn't come to that realization. And, well, we as developers do have some influence.
You may have side projects as well.
Also there's tools that are borderline personal, some I use or used: Quokka.js, GitKraken, GitHub Copilot.
- Trusted peers using a product
- Being able to test the product for free
- DevRel with genuine developer chops and mindset
- Good documentation
- Guides and tutorials
- No marketing fluff
Also a lot of developers report that they think marketing doesn't affect their behaviour
For enterprise pricing, this can be unavoidable, but a ballpark is nice. Or say you can offer steep discounts in the right situation, and have me call to discuss.
If more software companies put effort in documentation, web environments in the browser were is it possible to try the tools, provide many and good examples they would instantly push themselves way ahead of the competition.
Thats one of the biggest reasons to use open source these days. Most paid products have aweful documentation.
If you want me to use your product i need to be able to onboard myself.
you made my day :)
I have multiple cases where there's software I know works, but I don't know if it works for my situation. Not being able to test it means that we're going with the default "safe" option, which is almost always someone else.
The truth lies in results, not simply asking "how can I make you buy my product or service?" You will need to try many things. You will need to measure their effectiveness with a fairly standard funnel (eg [1]).
If you ask people, they will tell you that advertising doesn't work on them and they simply skip all ads. This just isn't true. Not that I'm defending attention theft but even if you have a good product that solves a problem potential users actually care about, you need to make those potential users aware of it somehow and you will need a metrics-based approach to finding it.
Technical people in particularly tend to take a dim view of sales and marketing. The reality is that these fields tend to be very results-focused (eg you sold something or you didn't vs "we shipped something nobody used but we learned a lot") and way more methodical than most product planning.
[1]: https://planful.com/blog/how-to-calculate-your-marketing-fun...
More, and more companies are open sourcing their core product, and those are usually the ones I'll recommend my employer use.
Besides that having a nice UI that's easy to use and prominently displayed in the marketing material, or available via a demo goes a long way, too.
I can’t tell you how many times I’ve been asked to evaluate some new software which required me to wade through pages of marketing speak and buzzwords before I could even find a explanation of what the product does.
Sales people that use words incorrectly and don’t have a deep understanding of the product or the problem being solved cause me to distrust the product and brand indefinitely. I’m looking at you Databricks, Datadog, and Snowflake.
Second, have good documentation and make it easily accessible.
Third, either in your interactive demo or in your video, make it extremely obvious what problem you’re trying to solve. You don’t need to be clever about it.
Fourth, if you use more than two buzzwords, I am just going to laugh and leave your site or delete your email and forever think you’re a grifter.
Marketing works on everyone, but many people have been trained to hate certain things due to repeated bad experiences. Things with arcane pricing, tons of NIH terms and/or buzzwords, poor documentation, and hype driven not solution driven marketing is all at the top of that “repeated bad experiences” list.
There's not necessarily shame in reacting positively to marketing and a lot of marketing directed at developers is truly dire. Your product isnt getting any more sales because you hired somebody who printed some t shirts.
Anecdotally I'd say the most effective marketing done by software companies is done at bosses who are not very tech savvy. Microsoft is especially good at playing upon their emotions.
Marketing is a massive discipline, it isn't just the cringy ads we see all the time. As with many things in life, you don't tend to notice those who are doing it well, just those who are doing it poorly.
I've never had good experience with salesperson. Almost every time I ask them "can your product do X?" I get answers like "yes" or "no but our engineers can make it happen", which is baseless promise. Last time I signed up with a vendor was when their engineer told me "No, we can't do that. And here's why that may not be what you want".
Many products with a lot of config options open up with a totally blank slate. Just to see what it might feel like you have to go away from their system to go google for examples which may or may not be current best practice.
I have adblockers and do not trust marketing at all. Is this close enough for an answer?
We may not fall for basic marketing tricks, but oh boy do we run behind hype trains.
A company burns a lot of goodwill by not being direct (which makes me even more suspicious of their offering): if what you have to offer is so great, then SHOW IT.
Also some quick (30 seconds) videos showing the value.
And no “book a call” let try and I will buy if I like.
show me the thing
2. Prominence of pricing. If the product does not have public, easily findable pricing, I will assume that the company is going to try to fleece me. Either now, or when I'm invested enough that I can't afford to switch. Hard pass.
3. I want the marketing to tell me what the product actually does, not what they think it will do for my company. I.e. tell me the stupid thing does object storage with an S3-compatible API, don't give me this "It accelerates your synergies and decelerates your incompatibilities" drivel. I'm perfectly capable of deciding whether an S3-compatible object store is going to be useful or not. Don't make me try to guess what it does, because I won't.
4. Do not ask for my phone number. Seriously, don't do it. I would rather give you a credit card number and pay for my trial than give you the means to cold call me for the next 3 months.
5. Do not cold call me. I will ask what product you're selling, hang up, add the product to my "do not buy" list, then spamlist your entire domain and block your number. If I'm interested, I'll reach out to you.
6. I like to see at least some open source code in a well-maintained repo, to give me some confidence that the closed source portions are well-maintained as well. It doesn't have to be something fancy or secret; just putting the HTTP calls that anyone could reverse engineer into a client library on Github that has unit tests and coverage and releases and what not is fine by me. I prefer entirely open source projects, but I know that's not realistic for many businesses.
7. If your business is a SaaS, I want a real status page. Not this red/yellow/green current status non-sense, but a graph of the SLI's over at least the past year with the SLA marked as a line on the graph, and annotations for the outages. That tells me that providing reliable service to customers is important to you. The red/yellow/green one tells me "reliability" is important to you, where "reliability" means "not having to pay out SLA penalties".
Clearly.