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0 pointsluketaylor2y ago0 comments

On AIPAC in the US:

1. “How the Israel lobby moved to quash rising dissent in Congress against Israel’s apartheid regime”

2. “Top Pro-Israel Group Offered Ocasio-Cortez $100,000 Campaign Cash”

3. “Senate Candidate in Michigan Says He Was Offered $20 Million to Challenge Tlaib”

[1]: https://theintercept.com/2023/11/27/israel-democrats-aipac-b...

[2]: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/ocasio-cortez-aipac-offer-con...

[3]: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/22/us/politics/hill-harper-r...

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gryzzly2y ago

hm, and how do you feel about Qatar sponsoring higher education in the US? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qatari_involvement_in_higher_e...

Not sure these three links show that "supposedly morally superior western world is entirely bribed and blackmailed". Especially on the "entirely" and "blackmail" parts.

hikingsimulator2y ago

> hm, and how do you feel about Qatar sponsoring higher education in the US?

Focusing on international interference by one state does not reduce the blame that can be thrown at another. There's no limited reserve of blame that requires to be cleverly distributed. The undemocratic influence over public institutions by lobbies, like Qatar's (see Qatargate in Europe) or Israeli-linked ones alike and many more, are the death of our societies.

Adverblessly2y ago

Surely if Israel is bribing in one direction and Qatar is bribing in the other direction, someone is not getting their money's worth? That is, the final result is either that the "western world is entirely bribed and blackmailed to stand behind Israel" or that they don't stand behind Israel.

hikingsimulator2y ago

That's a dumb argument. It's not like Qatari money is trying to buy the mathematical inverse of Israeli money in a game of tit-for-tat.

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pphysch2y ago

Foreign influence from Qatar is another serious case, but still small fries compared to malign foreign influence from Israel.

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gryzzly2y ago

hm, and how do you feel about Qatar sponsoring higher education in the US? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qatari_involvement_in_higher_e...

Not sure these three links show that "supposedly morally superior western world is entirely bribed and blackmailed". Especially on the "entirely" and "blackmail" parts.

hikingsimulator2y ago

> hm, and how do you feel about Qatar sponsoring higher education in the US?

Adverblessly2y ago

hikingsimulator2y ago

That's a dumb argument. It's not like Qatari money is trying to buy the mathematical inverse of Israeli money in a game of tit-for-tat.

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pphysch2y ago

Foreign influence from Qatar is another serious case, but still small fries compared to malign foreign influence from Israel.

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