Song lyrics have become simpler and more repetitive over the last five decades (opens in new tab)

(nature.com)

35 pointsjonifico1y ago11 comments

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squigz1y ago

This has been posted several times lately; discussion here https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39862404

__s1y ago

Maybe need to check if HN headlines have become simpler and more repetitive over last decade

squigz1y ago

Well... :P https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39879758

latexr1y ago

Bo Burnham, on the subject, 10 years ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCVGpvzcHko

cafard1y ago

A cousin, a very good guitarist, once said, People complain about punk rock, but the Beatles weren't exactly Stravinsky. He was talking about the tunes ("This is the third three-chord song in a row."). But he could have said, Lennon and McCarthy weren't exactly Da Ponte.

huytersd1y ago

The Beatles did experiment a lot though. A lot of their songs have very obscure chords and modifications for their time when it wasn’t easy to find information.

winternett1y ago

The songs that algorithms push on social media and that Major record labels are promoting are more simple... There are plenty of independent works out there that have great complexity and depth to them, but now that the Internet is firewalled, most people don't see the deeper and more talented works out there.

Independent artists are working furiously just to be heard, but now that payola is the ruling model for music, it's become really hard to find better music.

Until the dominance of large companies controlling visibility of what the public sees changes, we'll be stuck in the dark ages for good music. It's a shame.

costco1y ago

It's because the singer and songwriter are no longer distinct. Pop used to mean a beautiful new rendition of an Irving Berlin or Cole Porter song. Or a hitherto underappreciated song like "Mack the Knife." Now everyone's writing their own songs and it's a disaster. Few realize this.

tomjakubowski1y ago

Solo singer-songwriters have been virtually nonexistent in pop charts for the past 15 years

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/hardly-any...

costco1y ago

The artists themselves are usually coauthors with other people they collaborate with. I'm not aware of a modern day figure with an analogous role to one someone like Irving Berlin had at the time. The songs that chart today are lyrically new and are not new covers of songs from 10-20 years ago. There is no more Great American Songbook in the sense of songs that are written once and covered many times.

MikeDelta1y ago

Rick Beato also made a video about this, using some examples.

https://youtu.be/mQoWUtsVFV0?si=Ndr7sjqSQjkdcD2o

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11 comments

squigz1y ago

This has been posted several times lately; discussion here https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39862404

__s1y ago

Maybe need to check if HN headlines have become simpler and more repetitive over last decade

squigz1y ago

Well... :P https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39879758

latexr1y ago

Bo Burnham, on the subject, 10 years ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCVGpvzcHko

cafard1y ago

huytersd1y ago

The Beatles did experiment a lot though. A lot of their songs have very obscure chords and modifications for their time when it wasn’t easy to find information.

winternett1y ago

Independent artists are working furiously just to be heard, but now that payola is the ruling model for music, it's become really hard to find better music.

Until the dominance of large companies controlling visibility of what the public sees changes, we'll be stuck in the dark ages for good music. It's a shame.

costco1y ago

tomjakubowski1y ago

Solo singer-songwriters have been virtually nonexistent in pop charts for the past 15 years

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/hardly-any...

costco1y ago

MikeDelta1y ago

Rick Beato also made a video about this, using some examples.

https://youtu.be/mQoWUtsVFV0?si=Ndr7sjqSQjkdcD2o

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