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0 pointstambourine_man1y ago0 comments

If you need 60fps you shouldn’t use the DOM. It’s not a game engine. Like you said, go with canvas.

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60fps is not a high bar. A timer that gets updated every 10 millisecond (or in truth whatever the next event loop interval) is commonly used as tutorial, and there is no reason such a widget does not have a high refresh rate.

The point of the original comment is that DOM updates should be fast, efficient and avoid visible delays to user's eye, which is not easy. If you are not careful, small changes in a large application could lead to too many DOM updates -- that is where frameworks shine.

And canvas is not the solution to everything and has its own problems. To begin with, accessibility.

tambourine_manOP1y ago

I agree with all of it. I did recently a timeline with hundreds of elements, 3D transforms etc. Everything was smooth and not because I was particularly clever, but because browsers are fast. All direct DOM manipulation.

My complaint with modern frameworks is not FPS, but rather that a hello world often requires 20k files plus a compilation step and the upshot isn’t particularly clear to me. I’ve never been to one of its landing pages and thought: wow, that’s a problem I have and this looks like the perfect solution.

Conversely, I clearly remember the first time I saw jQuery. Loading content via Ajax and fading in when done, all in 3 lines of code and cross browser. I was sold at that very second.

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pquki41y ago

And canvas is not the solution to everything and has its own problems. To begin with, accessibility.

tambourine_manOP1y ago

Conversely, I clearly remember the first time I saw jQuery. Loading content via Ajax and fading in when done, all in 3 lines of code and cross browser. I was sold at that very second.

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