The data model behind Notion's flexibility (2021) (opens in new tab)

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28 pointsjacky2wong2y ago11 comments

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Language based redirect is useless when the article doesn't exits in that language.

Twey2y ago

My `Accept-Language` looks like `en-GB,de-DE;q=0,8,…` and for some reason Notion:

    - interprets this as me preferring German
    - tries to retrieve a non-existent German version of the page

The HTTP semantics RFC[1] is quite clear that an unqualified value should be equivalent to 1.0, and I don't think content negotiation should ever prefer a non-existent resource to one that exists.

[1]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc9110#field.accept-language

jitl2y ago

Sorry about that, will investigate

methou2y ago

Notion’s data model is so good and the UI is great. I have read their privacy/data collection terms and it’s borderline acceptable. But it leaves a bad taste on my tongue whey I learned that they never wanted to implements e2ee with some bs explanation.

jitl2y ago

Author here, happy to answer questions. You can also email me at jake@makenotion.com

whatch1y ago

Were there substantial changes to the data model? Especially in terms of how child ordering works

Related question: if there were no changes, for instance, because it is too costly to change it now, would you choose a different model for this now?

ilaksh2y ago

Awesome. Is it possible to put this into Claude 3 Opus and create an open source import and rendering system? Or is that already a thing.

euroderf2y ago

I would think that used together, the block model and RFC 1896 make a pretty complete setup.

sturza2y ago

This is great and all but notion is slow. After being a paying user for a number of years, i pulled the plug because of its atrocious performance.

jerrygenser2y ago

Should add (2021)

rspoerri2y ago

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croes2y ago

Language based redirect is useless when the article doesn't exits in that language.

Twey2y ago

My `Accept-Language` looks like `en-GB,de-DE;q=0,8,…` and for some reason Notion:

    - interprets this as me preferring German
    - tries to retrieve a non-existent German version of the page

The HTTP semantics RFC[1] is quite clear that an unqualified value should be equivalent to 1.0, and I don't think content negotiation should ever prefer a non-existent resource to one that exists.

[1]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc9110#field.accept-language

jitl2y ago

Sorry about that, will investigate

methou2y ago

jitl2y ago

Author here, happy to answer questions. You can also email me at jake@makenotion.com

whatch1y ago

Were there substantial changes to the data model? Especially in terms of how child ordering works

Related question: if there were no changes, for instance, because it is too costly to change it now, would you choose a different model for this now?

ilaksh2y ago

Awesome. Is it possible to put this into Claude 3 Opus and create an open source import and rendering system? Or is that already a thing.

euroderf2y ago

I would think that used together, the block model and RFC 1896 make a pretty complete setup.

sturza2y ago

This is great and all but notion is slow. After being a paying user for a number of years, i pulled the plug because of its atrocious performance.

jerrygenser2y ago

Should add (2021)

rspoerri2y ago

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