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0 pointsvouaobrasil2y ago0 comments

> In my well balanced life, I love interacting with LLMs. I also appreciate the things I have all of the time, without needing to slowing down technological progress to do so

Okay that's fine, but you are not the rest of the world. While you enjoy the ultimate fruits of capitalism, there are people in developing countries suffering because of it through a lack of freedom and a destructiom of the landbases that they could once depend on. When climate change comes because of consumerism, it is you and other well-off people that will be able to move first.

OF COURSE, you will disagree with me, because you are probably at the apex. (Just the very fact that you have a well-balanced life means you are close to it, proportionally speaking to the entire human population.)

I don't claim that all capitalism is bad BTW. Rather, what I claim to be bad is global capitalism where other considerations have been eliminated or decimated.

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GaggiX2y ago· 3 in thread

I don't think I've ever seen a more clichéd argument against LLMs than "some people in the world suffer from capitalism".

vouaobrasilOP2y ago

That is not my argument against LLMs. Please don't put words in my mouth. My actual argument against LLMs is that:

1. They will replace so many jobs en masse that they will cause a large loss of meaning in many lives, that they will concentrate wealth in the hands of the tech companies, that they will enable even more efficient propaganda, and that they will be used as a drug to distract the populace from increasingly destructive practices enacted by global capitalism

2. LLMs will isolate us by providing more and more services that once were provided by humans. AI therapists, girlfriends/boyfriends, solvers of problems that we once turned to our fellow human being to solve. This vast increase in individual autonomy, pushed by psychological manipuluation to THINK that we need such autonomy, will destroy more local communities and connections that people have with each other. In conclusion we will become isolated and miserable, relying completely on the machine to keep our lives balanced without any autonomy to seek out our own way of doing things.

Is that still cliche enough for you, or would you like to make more comments in bad faith about my position?

yoyohello132y ago

I think you are absolutely correct in your assessment and I think there is absolutely nothing that can be done about it.

GaggiX2y ago

>That is not my argument against LLMs. Please don't put words in my mouth.

That was the most people could read thought from your previous comments, now that I make you notice that, you wrote some actual arguments, even though I do not share your doomerish vision of the future.

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airstrike2y ago· 2 in thread

People in developing countries are better off with capitalism than without it... speaking as someone born and raised in a developing country. No, capitalism isn't perfect, but then again nothing is

Speaking of Brazil specifically since that's in your nickname, the deforestation of the Amazon to make room for cattle isn't caused by developed countries running LLMs. It's caused by Brazilians who are negligent, complacent, happy, even, with that choice.

geraldhh2y ago

true, capitalism is causing deforestation. pretty bad already, no llm needed.

airstrike2y ago

Brazilians are causing deforestation. Capitalism is not needed. It's not like other economic systems protected the environment. Capitalism is just concurrent with deforestation, but not its inherent cause. You might as well say sunrises are causing deforestation because with every new sunrise, more trees are being chopped down.

Nimitz142y ago

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