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0 pointschaostheory2y ago0 comments

That’s how MS works which leads to compatibility, but less stability. Historically with Apple, it’s their way or the highway. Less compatibility, but the OS is more stable.

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funcDropShadow2y ago

If the OS changes its fundamental behaviors it is less stable not more.. It might be more secure, though I am not convinced in this case.

TheLoafOfBread2y ago

Does not seems stable, when all Java based applications are crashing.

zimpenfish2y ago

> when all Java based applications are crashing

That probably needs to be qualified with "Oracle JVM Java applications" because I've had many hours of running Minecraft on macOS 14.4 under Zulu's JVM (a pre-14.4 release which means it doesn't have any workarounds) without any issues.

vbezhenar2y ago

Almost all Java builds including Zulu are made from the same OpenJDK code base. The fact that you didn't experience crashes does not tell anything. May be you were lucky or this particular bug was not manifesting for this particular application.

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chaostheoryOP2y ago

Only Java is unstable because it’s not following Apple’s rules. Everything else, including the apps that follow the rules, are stable. That’s how it’s always been for the Apple ecosystem.

Reason0772y ago

Java is not breaking any rules. macOS has memory management provisions for JITs and virtual machines just like every other OS. SIGSEGV has been part of Unix for decades and works perfectly fine on other OSes. And still works "most of the time" on macOS. Apple broke something here, and I'm sure they will fix it pretty soon.

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