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Disregarding that there are 10 different laptop product lines to choose from, if I've already somehow decided that what I want is an XPS and I want a 13 inch screen size, my first two search results are

- XPS 13 Laptop

https://i.imgur.com/2SHL91Y.png

I gather that one of these is a newer revision than the other, but it's a lot more confusing than "M2" and "M3". I need to know whether I want (up to) a Core Ultra 7 155H vs a Core i7-1250U, and whether (up to) Intel Arc Graphics is better than Intel Iris Xe graphics.

Scrolling down further adds the XPS 13 Plus and XPS 13 2-in-1 Laptop. How does XPS 13 Plus compared to XPS 13 Laptop? What about to the other XPS 13 Laptop, is it better than both? Or is this a weird side-grade where you get a different form factor which is in some ways nicer, but then also comes with all the dumb parts of the Apple's "Touch Bar" and none of the good parts? (that's my 10 second interpretation of the product, but more clueless customers will have absolutely no idea)

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harkinian2y ago

I like how one is Intel i7 and one is Intel 7. Mind that the i7 is a -U, which is totally different from a -H or a desktop i7.

bufferoverflow2y ago

Isn't it the same with Apple? You choose between Air or Pro 14" or Pro 16".

But then there are all the variations with different amounts of RAM, SSD, processors (M3, M3 Pro, M3 Max)

And every little upgrade costs you 10X compared to a PC laptop.

wlesieutreOP2y ago

No not really, I already narrowed down the product lines to only XPS. And 13" is actually one of their less messy sizes, there are the 4 XPS models and 7 Latitudes.

Then within each of these the configurable parts vary, but you're potentially picking processor, RAM, GPU, SSD, and even display resolution. It's not any simpler than the options within one of Apple's laptops, except Apple has a total of four laptops in all sizes.

If you wanted a 15" laptop from Dell, you have 1 XPS, 2 Latitudes, 4 Inspirons, 2 Vostros, and 2 G Series. All of which are an ambiguous mix of actually different models or new/old revisions of the "same" models.

Looking at pricing on the XPS 15, 64 GB RAM adds $450, the RTX 4070 is $1200, upgrade from i7-13700H to i9-13900H is $450, you can option Windows 11 Pro for $50, there's a higher resolution screen for $300 (or $800 if you didn't option the fancy GPU), it's not cheap over here either.

The one place where it really feels like Apple is screwing you compared to Dell is SSD pricing.

harkinian2y ago

There are going to be screen and components options on any laptop, and that's fine. What's weird is how many different but similar products Dell has, same with HP.

The most confusing laptop lineup Apple ever had that I remember was early 2015: MacBook, MacBook Air, Macbook Pro, and the old non-retina MBP from 2012 that they were still selling.

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harkinian2y ago

I like how one is Intel i7 and one is Intel 7. Mind that the i7 is a -U, which is totally different from a -H or a desktop i7.

bufferoverflow2y ago

Isn't it the same with Apple? You choose between Air or Pro 14" or Pro 16".

But then there are all the variations with different amounts of RAM, SSD, processors (M3, M3 Pro, M3 Max)

And every little upgrade costs you 10X compared to a PC laptop.

wlesieutreOP2y ago

No not really, I already narrowed down the product lines to only XPS. And 13" is actually one of their less messy sizes, there are the 4 XPS models and 7 Latitudes.

The one place where it really feels like Apple is screwing you compared to Dell is SSD pricing.

harkinian2y ago

There are going to be screen and components options on any laptop, and that's fine. What's weird is how many different but similar products Dell has, same with HP.

The most confusing laptop lineup Apple ever had that I remember was early 2015: MacBook, MacBook Air, Macbook Pro, and the old non-retina MBP from 2012 that they were still selling.

j / k navigate · click thread line to collapse