undefined | Better HN

Skip to content

Top Best Ask Show New Jobs

0 pointsvogre2y ago0 comments

>No one sane is expecting a war between them any time soon.

Ukraine and Russia were same country like almost forever. No one sane was expecting a war between them.

Don't underestimate ability of polititians to screw things up.

0 comments

6 comments · 2 top-level

jacquesm2y ago· 4 in thread

Ukraine was under Russian dominion like almost forever, but that didn't make it a part of Russia. If it had been then Russians would not distinguish between 'Russians' and 'little Russians' and other (far worse) terms.

throwawaymaths2y ago

not to forget that at one point muscovy was under ukraininian (Rus-ian) dominion.

Germans do distinguish between Prussian Germans and Bavarian Germans. Nevertheless it's the same country.

Various types of Germans also did have a large number of wars agains one another.

Russian position is indeed that Ukrainian claims on the statehood in 1991 or even 2014 borders are absolutely bogus.

Personally, I also find it hard to respect the immutability of international borders that are younger than I am.

But they don't see the other half of Germany as untermenschen. Which is roughly how the Russians view the denizens of all of the conquered land in their empire that isn't Russia proper.

cycomanic2y ago

Germans distinguish between prussians and bavarians? What are you talking about. Yes there are distinctions by state and where you're from. But the distingtion (apart from the occasional joking Fischkopf or Pazi) is nonexistent. Much less than states in the US.

attentive2y ago

no, they weren't. It was occupied by russia/soviet empire.

j / k navigate · click thread line to collapse