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0 pointsmbesto2y ago0 comments

> I know people around these parts think that Tesla has uncovered some magical factory building ability, but can you even consider the fact that maybe Toyota knows what they are doing?

Not a Tesla fanboy (I'm turning mine in for a Rivian), but the OP wasn't saying this, not sure how you got that conclusion. They are saying for a car company they are (1) way behind and (2) any investments they are making won't reach fruition for years, nor likely make a dent in the industry.

Outside of MB and the Chinese EVs, the design of Tesla motors is far superior. Their build quality and finishing is awful however - something the traditional players do really well.

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itsoktocry2y ago

>not sure how you got that conclusion.

The OP drew a direct comparison from what Tesla spent on a plant, to what Toyota is spending on a factory. How can you draw a different conclusion? What makes Tesla "right" and Toyota "wrong"?

>They are saying for a car company they are (1) way behind and (2) any investments they are making won't reach fruition for years, nor likely make a dent in the industry.

Way behind what? The RAV4 sold more units than the Model Y last year, and that's just one model. Again, people have this weird way of extrapolating what Tesla is doing in the EV market (dominating) to the overall car market (rounding error).

gergi1372y ago

Nope, the Model Y was the best selling vehicle in 2023, regardless of powertrain.

https://insideevs.com/news/706169/tesla-model-y-best-selling...

fragmede2y ago

car, not vehicle. The best selling vehicle in the US in 2023 by a long shot is the Ford F-series truck.

Car and Driver also says the Rav4 outside the Model Y, fwiw.

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/g43553191/bestselling-cars...

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