OpenAI integrates metadata in DALL-E 3 images (ChatGPT and APIs) (opens in new tab)

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BoiledCabbage2y ago· 6 in thread

Which is good, and is definitely a start (and more than I've heard any others doing) - but the only long term solution is that all non-generated images (ie real photos) are signed as such.

Otherwise malicious actors will just strip the metadata out of the generated one.

JohnFen2y ago

> the only long term solution is that all non-generated images (ie real photos) are signed as such.

How could that possibly work? In order to mean anything, it would have to be signed by some independent entity who can verify the photo is real. How would that entity be able to tell if it is? And what would be the ramifications of requiring everyone who takes pictures to get them signed?

Even if it were an effective solution, isn't it just pushing costs being created by AI onto uninvolved others?

BoiledCabbage2y ago

> How could that possibly work?

The camera uses a certificate to sign the authenticity of the photo taken and some metadata. Any editing app wraps that signature with its own signature stating it was modified. You end up with a chain of provenance. And any generated photo is either missing a chain, or when un-wrapping, its origin cert isn't from a camera.

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cma2y ago

How does that prevent taking a photo of a generated image, gaining the camera signature?

mbjorkegren2y ago

GPS location, depth, exposure settings, focus distance could be incorporated into the signed data. Also if the image is high enough resolution you could pick out individual pixels/subpixels in the screen.

mpalmer2y ago

How would we avoid malicious actors finding a way to sign generated images? The more trust people have in signed images, the greater the incentive to crack the system.

ShamelessC2y ago

> For example, most social media platforms today remove metadata from uploaded images, and actions like taking a screenshot can also remove it. Therefore, an image lacking this metadata may or may not have been generated with ChatGPT or our API.

037OP2y ago· 1 in thread

Few minutes ago, on Discord:

"Images generated in ChatGPT and our API now include metadata using C2PA specifications.

This allows anyone (including social platforms and content distributors) to see that an image was generated by our products.

Read more in our help article here: https://help.openai.com/en/articles/8912793-c2pa-in-dall-e-3 "

shzhdbi09gv8ioi2y ago

> OpenAI is adding watermarks to images created by its DALLE-3 AI in ChatGPT, but it’s ridiculously easy to remove them. So easy, that ChatGPT itself will show you how to do it.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/barrycollins/2024/02/07/the-stu...

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