undefined | Better HN

Skip to content

Top Best Ask Show New Jobs

0 pointsjruohonen2y ago0 comments

> Yeah, I've seen it's a big hassle

A huge hassle, in fact. Even with robust exchangers, like Postix, and careful all around hardening, you are going to get a fight of your life.

0 comments

5 comments · 3 top-level

154573452342y ago· 2 in thread

It's so weird how whenever this topic comes up on HN, a bunch of people appear who all say 'nope, impossible, don't even try, you'll never achieve reliable delivery to [2 big names]'

Meanwhile a bunch of other people are saying 'despite many people here reporting issues, once I got the software installed, it works fine for me'

Really makes you think

Good point. I think that one of the things that got this discussion to fire up was that I didn't say that I didn't mind my emails going to spam box (I know it's very tricky getting whitelisted). And I think, some of those who say 'nope, impossible' is referring to getting whitelisted while those who say 'works fine for me' are people fine with not being whitelisted.

154573452342y ago

> while those who say 'works fine for me' are people fine with not being whitelisted.

I mean, my working theory here is that it's easy to get whitelisted - in fact you'll probably be whitelisted by default if you have working DMARC and DKIM etc - but companies who operate large mail installations also operate AI 'agents' that aim to drive traffic and users towards their service. That includes spreading negative sentiment i.e. convincing users on forums that setting up their own mailserver is an impossible task and that they'll never be able to achieve delivery etc.

Of course I could be wrong.

wyclif2y ago

Sure it's a big hassle if all you want to do is get your email. But it's still a great way to learn how to administer email if you intend to get a sysadmin or ops job.

It's time new something new. Why cling the the days of yore?

j / k navigate · click thread line to collapse