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0 pointsscheeseman4862y ago0 comments

Hey you know what might not be AI generated post-2021? Almost everything run through Nightshade. So given it's defeated, which is pretty likely, artists have effectively tagged their own work for inclusion.

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hkt2y ago

It is a great shame that we have come to a no-win situation for artists when VCs are virtually unable to lose.

ToucanLoucan2y ago

I mean that's more or less status quo isn't it? Big business does what it wants, common people can get fucked if they don't like it. Same as it ever was.

hkt2y ago

That's exactly right. It is just the variety of new ways in which common people get fucked that is dispiriting, with seemingly nothing capable of moving in the opposite direction.

kmeisthax2y ago

Why wouldn't an artist just generate AI spam and Nightshade it?

visarga2y ago

Modern generative image models are trained on curated data, not raw internet data. Sometimes the captions are regenerated to fit the image better. Only high quality images with high quality descriptions.

famouswaffles2y ago

I wouldn't call what Stable Diffusion et al are trained on "high quality". You need only look through the likes of LAION to see the kind of captions and images they get trained on.

It's not random but it's not particularly curated either. Most of the time, any curation is done afterwards.

visarga2y ago

Have you seen the BLIP paper? It's a bit old now, but it introduced a curation method.

https://arxiv.org/abs/2201.12086

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hkt2y ago

It is a great shame that we have come to a no-win situation for artists when VCs are virtually unable to lose.

ToucanLoucan2y ago

I mean that's more or less status quo isn't it? Big business does what it wants, common people can get fucked if they don't like it. Same as it ever was.

hkt2y ago

That's exactly right. It is just the variety of new ways in which common people get fucked that is dispiriting, with seemingly nothing capable of moving in the opposite direction.

kmeisthax2y ago

Why wouldn't an artist just generate AI spam and Nightshade it?

visarga2y ago

famouswaffles2y ago

I wouldn't call what Stable Diffusion et al are trained on "high quality". You need only look through the likes of LAION to see the kind of captions and images they get trained on.

It's not random but it's not particularly curated either. Most of the time, any curation is done afterwards.

visarga2y ago

Have you seen the BLIP paper? It's a bit old now, but it introduced a curation method.

https://arxiv.org/abs/2201.12086

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