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0 pointsOsrsNeedsf2P2y ago0 comments

The main argument that you buy Apple because you can trust the payment system doesn't really go against the anticompetitive argument Epic is making.

Re Android:

* Android has the same 30% fee * Android controls the Play Store IAPs (dark patterns) almost identically to Apple

- Mobile dev of 3 years

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NetOpWibby2y ago

Personally, Android's ecosystem has never been compelling because of Google. Even barring their unrelenting focus on gobbling more of your data, they can't even keep their services on. Their graveyard is massive.

How many times has their default messages app changed? It's nuts. Being an Android developer seems like an exercise in frustration. I'm sure it happens on iOS to some degree but I've seen people online brag about never buying an Android app; piracy is rampant.

We desperately need a third option.

cyberax2y ago

> Personally, Android's ecosystem has never been compelling because of Google. Even barring their unrelenting focus on gobbling more of your data, they can't even keep their services on. Their graveyard is massive.

Who cares? If you're developing for Android, you don't need to care about Google killing off Stadia.

> How many times has their default messages app changed? It's nuts. Being an Android developer seems like an exercise in frustration.

Again, who cares? I'm using the same messaging apps that I was using 10 years ago.

And it's not like Apple is any better. It has standardized on iMessage, but you can't do anything with it as a developer. It might as well not exist for you.

turquoisevar2y ago

> It has standardized on iMessage, but you can't do anything with it as a developer. It might as well not exist for you.

Hey now, there are dozens of developers making apps for iMessage. Dozens!!

All kidding aside, there is actually quite some stuff you can do with iMessage, but other than the occasional runaway hit like Game Pigeon, not many devs are interested in pouring resources into it.

NetOpWibby2y ago

> Again, who cares? I'm using the same messaging apps that I was using 10 years ago.

One of my best friends who was using Allo. Or Duo. Or Hangouts. Or Meet. Or whatever. He really loved one of those apps and it got removed/changed/or something.

My point was that as a developer, I'd want to ensure users like the platform they're on enough to buy my app. This same friend? He moved to some launcher and just uses Discord and Element now. As I understand it, using a launcher prevents you from using the Google Play Store, so you're not buying apps.

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NetOpWibby2y ago

We desperately need a third option.

cyberax2y ago

Who cares? If you're developing for Android, you don't need to care about Google killing off Stadia.

> How many times has their default messages app changed? It's nuts. Being an Android developer seems like an exercise in frustration.

Again, who cares? I'm using the same messaging apps that I was using 10 years ago.

And it's not like Apple is any better. It has standardized on iMessage, but you can't do anything with it as a developer. It might as well not exist for you.

turquoisevar2y ago

> It has standardized on iMessage, but you can't do anything with it as a developer. It might as well not exist for you.

Hey now, there are dozens of developers making apps for iMessage. Dozens!!

All kidding aside, there is actually quite some stuff you can do with iMessage, but other than the occasional runaway hit like Game Pigeon, not many devs are interested in pouring resources into it.

NetOpWibby2y ago

> Again, who cares? I'm using the same messaging apps that I was using 10 years ago.

One of my best friends who was using Allo. Or Duo. Or Hangouts. Or Meet. Or whatever. He really loved one of those apps and it got removed/changed/or something.

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