John Burns: Dublin tech guru ousted from board over Gaza 'genocide' blog post (opens in new tab)

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elif2y ago· 4 in thread

It is shocking to me that the terms "genocide", "apartheid", and "terrorism" are seen by neutral parties as any way inaccurate in the Palestinian context. Sure anyone can argue these are inflammatory or choose not to use the terms personally, but they are indisputably semantically accurate terms.

shashashasha___2y ago

i think the opposite. ita shocking people do consider it genocide. israels target is not civilians. if it wanted to, the death toll would be 100x. even more, you don't get a breakdown of civilians to hamas casualties so everyone thinks they are all civilians.

on the other hand, you did see hamas kill, rape, mutilate and kidnap (still didn't release the majority) and state they want to kill all jews. that... sounds like genocide.

jemmyw2y ago

Genocide has a very specific meaning and you don't have to kill a single person to be committing it. Whether that applies to Israel in Gaza I couldn't say as IANAL. I would hazard no. However, it might be yes - they are levelling the city and leaving the people alive and that could count as destroying the culture.

elif2y ago

do gaza school children sing about annihilating everyone and destroying everything?

youtu.be/FSlUpltK5Kw

elif2y ago

It's not a one or the other situation. I agree hamas is attempting genocide.

EcstatifyOP2y ago· 3 in thread

Blog Post: https://blog.paulbiggar.com/i-cant-sleep/

Jim Rose, ceo of CircleCI, responded by pointing out on social media that “Paul does not speak on behalf of” the San Francisco-based company, which he declared was “committed to our customers in Israel and around the world”. Soon afterwards, however, Rose posted: “Effective December 22, Paul Biggar is no longer a director at CircleCI. We thank him for his contributions on the board and wish him the best for what’s next.”

ZeroGravitas2y ago

What he's doing now:

https://blog.paulbiggar.com/tech-for-palestine/

> Tech For Palestine (Twitter, Github) is a collection of over 40 tech founders, engineers, marketers, community builders, and investors, working towards ending tech's support for Israel's war on the Palestinian people across Gaza and the West Bank, and working towards a free Palestine.

q1w22y ago

Establishing a free Palestine is less about fighting Israel / empowering Palestinians, and more about getting foreign influence in the middle-east to want peace. At Camp David, the reason Arafat gave for rejecting the peace deal was that other Arab countries did not want to share Jerusalem with Israel. The majority of Palestinians supported the peace deal.

Y-bar2y ago

Damn.

The list of citations and sources in that post is longer than the post itself.

throwaway554792y ago

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38645523

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38744050

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38741160

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38847523

Most are flagged. This one will probably be next if popular. Dang did explain it in the last one, and I respect his position.

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shashashasha___2y ago

on the other hand, you did see hamas kill, rape, mutilate and kidnap (still didn't release the majority) and state they want to kill all jews. that... sounds like genocide.

jemmyw2y ago

elif2y ago

do gaza school children sing about annihilating everyone and destroying everything?

youtu.be/FSlUpltK5Kw

elif2y ago

It's not a one or the other situation. I agree hamas is attempting genocide.

EcstatifyOP2y ago· 3 in thread

Blog Post: https://blog.paulbiggar.com/i-cant-sleep/

ZeroGravitas2y ago

What he's doing now:

https://blog.paulbiggar.com/tech-for-palestine/

q1w22y ago