Midihum: An ML-Based MIDI Humanizing Tool (opens in new tab)

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CrypticShift2y ago· 8 in thread

I mean, you are already "performing"; it's not as if it is computer-generated (or drawn with the mouse), so it should already be "humanized." I believe the real issue lies with subpar MIDI keyboards that lack sufficient responsiveness. This is rarely a problem for me with guitars, where I can always dial in velocities with exactly the precision I have in mind (and I'm an amateur).

FYI Another way MIDI is humanized in DAWs is in the temporal domain (i.e., rhythm/timing). This was popularized by Ableton's Groove Pool [1].

[1] https://www.ableton.com/en/manual/using-grooves/

BriggyDwiggs422y ago

Why couldn’t you use this on drawn in midi data? I figured that was the point.

lancesells2y ago

That's what I assumed this was for as well. Take a composition from something like Hookpad and run it through this before importing into a DAW.

erwaldOP2y ago

Yes, that is indeed the main use case.

steve19772y ago

> This was popularized by Ableton's Groove Pool

This was a feature in Cubase on Atari years before Ableton even existed. Most likely also in Logic Pro’s precursor Notator.

NikkiA2y ago

Also 'groove pool' as a term comes from acid pro, which predates ableton (and has always been able to extract groove timing from audio as well as midi)

lancesells2y ago

In Logic Pro it's called Humanize.

cammikebrown2y ago

It’s a lot easier for me to play with proper dynamics on an actual piano versus a keyboard. Maybe if it’s an extremely fancy weighted one, it’d be okay, but I generally don’t have access to one of those.

adzm2y ago

Groove is such an amazing feature in Ableton. It's so surprising how much just slight adjustments to the rhythm can make something feel laid back.

DrSiemer2y ago· 2 in thread

A before and after demo would help. I don't even have time to actually make music anymore, I'm not going through the trouble of installing this and then finding or creating a suitable midi file just to test it.

brudgers2y ago

Why not use an existing file?

https://archive.org/details/themagicofmidiv1

DrSiemer2y ago

Because I assume this works on single track compositions and not full compositions, which would increase the time I'd need to spend finding a suitable midi file. I did check if one was included in the repository, but there isn't.

If you work on something for 5 years, adding a quick demo isn't too much to ask for, is it? I'm sure I'm not the only one who has negative time to spare.

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cmiller12y ago

> Using midihum is easy. First clone the repository, navigate to the midihum/ directory, and install dependencies:

> pip install -r requirements.txt

Why not just upload it to pypi so you can do all this with one pip command?

a-dub2y ago

cool! might be able to improve substantially with low effort using a simple approach to capturing dynamics like adding a few lags of the existing features.

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18 comments

14 comments · 4 top-level

CrypticShift2y ago· 8 in thread

FYI Another way MIDI is humanized in DAWs is in the temporal domain (i.e., rhythm/timing). This was popularized by Ableton's Groove Pool [1].

[1] https://www.ableton.com/en/manual/using-grooves/

BriggyDwiggs422y ago

Why couldn’t you use this on drawn in midi data? I figured that was the point.

lancesells2y ago

That's what I assumed this was for as well. Take a composition from something like Hookpad and run it through this before importing into a DAW.

erwaldOP2y ago

Yes, that is indeed the main use case.

steve19772y ago

> This was popularized by Ableton's Groove Pool

This was a feature in Cubase on Atari years before Ableton even existed. Most likely also in Logic Pro’s precursor Notator.

NikkiA2y ago

Also 'groove pool' as a term comes from acid pro, which predates ableton (and has always been able to extract groove timing from audio as well as midi)

lancesells2y ago

In Logic Pro it's called Humanize.

cammikebrown2y ago

adzm2y ago

Groove is such an amazing feature in Ableton. It's so surprising how much just slight adjustments to the rhythm can make something feel laid back.

DrSiemer2y ago· 2 in thread

brudgers2y ago

Why not use an existing file?

https://archive.org/details/themagicofmidiv1

DrSiemer2y ago

If you work on something for 5 years, adding a quick demo isn't too much to ask for, is it? I'm sure I'm not the only one who has negative time to spare.

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cmiller12y ago

> Using midihum is easy. First clone the repository, navigate to the midihum/ directory, and install dependencies:

> pip install -r requirements.txt

Why not just upload it to pypi so you can do all this with one pip command?

a-dub2y ago

cool! might be able to improve substantially with low effort using a simple approach to capturing dynamics like adding a few lags of the existing features.

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