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0 pointsonetimeuse923042y ago0 comments

I am of more positive thinking here. I think our problems with cancer are due to misunderstanding what cancer is in the first place.

Here, Thomas Seyfried can explain this much better than I ever could: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KusaU2taxow

I think once we know where cancer comes from we can be much more effective at preventing it in the first place (proper diet) and treating it after the fact. With the current progress I think at some point we should be able to prevent pretty much close to all deaths from cancer.

Obviously, people will always be dying of something so preventing a cancer will only mean we will have other challenges to face.

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benjijay2y ago

It's been a few years since I was as deep into this realm so I might be slightly off but;

Cancers and Tumors mostly happen as a result of some errant mutation - there are limitless causes for such things and the best diet in the world can't save you from random biological chance or solar radiation. Everything comes with a risk and 98 times out of 100 your own defences will see this mutation happen and shut it down before it gets too far

A 100% effective 'prevention' for cancer would basically be a souped-up immune system to the point that we basically never get meaningfully sick, and probably live another 30-50 years as a result (most cases of "died of old age" are more like "had 7 different minor cancers which overwhelmed the body's systems")

chefandy2y ago

Yeah— it's obviously worth interrogating how our environments affect our cancer risk, but considering that the disease was named by Hippocrates in the 300s BCE, it seems pretty unlikely that any single avoidable environmental factor could be "the cause," or any single factor could be "the mechanism."

benjijay2y ago

Certainly there are myriad 'causes', and likely at least a few mechanisms if you get into specifics, but as a general rule a cancerous tumour is a group of cells that multiply faster than they die (or don't die at all), and consume resources without 'giving back' to the organ in which they reside - effectively the "I have outlived my designated usefulness" switch gets commented out and replaced with "multiply even harder, forever"

stvltvs2y ago

A non-specific treatment that revs up the immune system increases the risk of autoimmune disease. It would have to be specific to the cancer AFAIK, so more of a treatment for an existing cancer than a preventative measure.

Ralfp2y ago

And here is counter-response from David Gorski:

https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/ketogenic-diets-for-cancer-...

TL;DR we are researching metabolism of cancer but findings so far are not even close to validity the claims that Seyfried makes.

b4ke2y ago

Lies. Lies about the nature of shared-conception. The universe is a representation of the collective will, and lies obfuscate that in ways that are consequential.

b4ke2y ago

It’s unfortunate that the intellectual curiosity of religious leaders led to science, as they are probably also responsible for the problems it seeks to solve.

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0 pointsonetimeuse923042y ago0 comments

I am of more positive thinking here. I think our problems with cancer are due to misunderstanding what cancer is in the first place.

Here, Thomas Seyfried can explain this much better than I ever could: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KusaU2taxow

Obviously, people will always be dying of something so preventing a cancer will only mean we will have other challenges to face.

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benjijay2y ago

It's been a few years since I was as deep into this realm so I might be slightly off but;

chefandy2y ago

benjijay2y ago

stvltvs2y ago

Ralfp2y ago

And here is counter-response from David Gorski:

https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/ketogenic-diets-for-cancer-...

TL;DR we are researching metabolism of cancer but findings so far are not even close to validity the claims that Seyfried makes.

b4ke2y ago

Lies. Lies about the nature of shared-conception. The universe is a representation of the collective will, and lies obfuscate that in ways that are consequential.

b4ke2y ago

It’s unfortunate that the intellectual curiosity of religious leaders led to science, as they are probably also responsible for the problems it seeks to solve.

j / k navigate · click thread line to collapse