California Pizza Hut operators laying off all delivery drivers (opens in new tab)

There are no independent pizza places? Here in the north east US, I have at least 3 independent pizza places in walking distance. They may outnumber the Dunkin Donuts.

Whaaaat? It’s been a while since I lived in california (Monterey and later the Bay Area) but I found California to have some of the best pizza anywhere…

Pesto and potato pizza in the Castro was amazing.

Pizza Hut is what it is, but I have pizza places I prefer in orange county and santa clara county. Where are you and someone will make pizza recomendations. Good pizza costs money, but if you're looking at Pizza Hut, maybe you're looking for cheap and palettable rather than good?

Also, maybe where were you that had pizza more to your liking? Or what kind of pizza are you looking for if you can be specific.

For anyone that doesn’t get it, add a /s to this.

I worked at a Pizza Hut 30 years ago. It's absolutely banal shit. The reason it's mostly shit is because it's not NYC or Chicago. There are maybe a handful of excellent pizza places in all of California.

It doesn't have to be, but I thought this is how it generally works, higher taxes and employee wages get passed to consumers. This is why taxing the wealthy individually and redistributing wealth (government jobs, basic livable income, healthcare) is key in the long term. Otherwise this cycle continues.

https://www.marketplace.org/2023/11/15/if-wages-go-up-do-fas...

https://gspp.berkeley.edu/research-and-impact/publications/t...

Agreed. In-n-Out is better than McDonalds anyhow and not far apart in price anymore either.

With a tight labor market, those folks are going to find other jobs very quickly. They’ll also collect unemployment in the interim. US unemployment rate is around 3.7%, California around 4.9% (Nov 2023).

https://edd.ca.gov/en/about_edd/news_releases_and_announceme...

I agree. Fast food used to be cheap; back in the late 1990s I remember promotions such as 29 cent and 39 cent hamburgers and cheeseburgers from McDonald’s, 99 cent promo items from Taco Bell such as the introduction of the Gordita, Subway’s $5 footlongs throughout the 2000s, and the various dollar menus that McDonald’s and their competitors had in the 2000s. Even outside of promotions, even the most expensive combo meal didn’t exceed $10 until just a few years ago. Yes, I understand inflation exists, but fast food prices to me seem to have undergone dramatic price hikes since around 2010, and the hikes since the pandemic started have made fast food ridiculously priced when considering the low quality of the food. Nowadays fast food combo meals in my area (Silicon Valley) have exceeded the $10 mark. Even Sacramento, which has lower housing prices and generally lower wages, is no escape; a week or so ago I pulled up to a McDonald’s and was shocked to see that the prices were higher than the already sky-high prices I’ve seen in Silicon Valley. These days I find myself going into a grocery store and getting grab-and-go items whenever I need a quick bite; it’s generally cheaper and the options are healthier anyway. However, sometimes when I forgot to plan ahead or when I can’t plan ahead, I have no choice but to buy fast food and pay today’s insane prices.

Interestingly enough, I recently returned from a trip to Japan, and was amazed by how cheap fast food was there. $10 barely gets you a crappy combo meal in California these days, but ¥1400 in Tokyo gets you some delicious, filling meals, not just from McDonald’s, MOS Burger, and Yoshinoya (just to name a few of the more traditional fast food places), but also at some sit-down chains such as Yayoi-ken, which specializes in set meals (teishoku); I had a wonderful sukiyaki plate with extra beef, rice, and miso soup for less than ¥1400, including tax (the 10% consumption tax is generally part of displayed prices in Japan), and there’s no tipping in Japan. The same plate would’ve easily been $20 before the 9-10% sales tax and an 18% tip in California.

Don't think it's wages that are the issue, it's the relentless need for profit growth. They've basically reached market saturation, so aside from stealing market share from other segments, they'll squeeze clients.

They run on spreadsheets. Not ethics or spite. If they’re wrong, we’ll get to enjoy watching them discover that the hard way.

VCs are rent seekers, like copyright holders

The aggregate have no physical obligation to propagate the memes about their value to society. Their value is coupled to nation state policy, not daily life support of others.

If we’re just going to be forced to work for rich people 7 days a week we may as well make our own stuff, barter with our community 7 days week.

Let the rich help labor class by doing the work to serve their real needs rather than externalize. I’m happy to turn a blind eye to any rich who die sick and penniless, as they project is acceptable way to treat others.

Such memes are propagating on social media; whether organic posts or not, readers are walking away from Reddit and elsewhere questioning the real day to day value of enabling distant financiers

They deliver themselves? In my area they use DoorDash from their app.