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0 pointskasey_junk2y ago0 comments

You’ll note those documents are extremely careful in describing the control plane architecture to not promise you are running a stock k8s install. Which is why I’ve always assumed otherwise.

But I’ll trust the sibling comment which suggests the only bespoke component in gke is storage well enough to leave it alone.

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verdverm2y ago

Maybe you are reading it differently than me, but when they refer to the same binaries, as if I managed it myself, as being the pieces they use, it definitely seems like the open source project being used.

> The control plane is the unified endpoint for your cluster. You interact with the control plane through Kubernetes API calls. The control plane runs the Kubernetes API server process (kube-apiserver) to handle API requests.

> A node runs the services necessary to support the containers that make up your cluster's workloads. These include the runtime and the Kubernetes node agent (kubelet)

kasey_junkOP2y ago

We are well into the reeds of what doesn’t matter, only in that fly has given us a very under the covers look at their implementation that is hard to find with other alternatives. But as someone who has run K8s in other contexts I find the following to be pretty circumspect (not in a way that causes me concern, I’m a happy gke user)

> GKE Autopilot manages the entire underlying infrastructure of clusters, including the control plane, nodes, and all system components. If you use GKE Standard mode, GKE manages the control plane and system components, and you manage the nodes.

There is a mile of implementation detail in that. Which I’m happy for them to keep on their side of the street.

verdverm2y ago

> I’m a happy gke user && Which I’m happy for them to keep on their side of the street.

100% agreement

iirc, there was a time where I thought they were doing some consolidation things with how they run the control plane, then at some point my cluster updates had a warning related to control plane unavailability during an update, this was on a single node cluster

I get what you are saying though, there's probably some magic going on somewhere, but after many years on GKE, I don't really think about it.

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verdverm2y ago

> A node runs the services necessary to support the containers that make up your cluster's workloads. These include the runtime and the Kubernetes node agent (kubelet)

kasey_junkOP2y ago

There is a mile of implementation detail in that. Which I’m happy for them to keep on their side of the street.

verdverm2y ago

> I’m a happy gke user && Which I’m happy for them to keep on their side of the street.

100% agreement

I get what you are saying though, there's probably some magic going on somewhere, but after many years on GKE, I don't really think about it.

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