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0 pointsfreejazz2y ago0 comments

>Exactly. Any driver can put you at risk. Nothing to do with Tesla.

Well, to the extent it is caused by a Tesla, it absolutely has something to do with Tesla. I don't get to smash into a car because a drunk driver would. Why should a Tesla? It's a bit disingenuous to "put it on the driver" when the driver isn't driving because he's using Tesla's self-driving software.

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natch2y ago· 2 in thread

How it works is the driver is responsible for maintaining safety at all times. We are talking about the beta here. So it is 100% the driver.

When the non-beta exists, then we can talk about that, but we aren't there yet.

freejazzOP2y ago

That's what Tesla says, but that's clearly just a way for them to avoid liability. A system that points you off a cliff and then gives you control after its already terminal is facially defective.

>When the non-beta exists, then we can talk about that, but we aren't there yet.

Sorry, but putting the label "test" on things is not actually a way to avoid legal liablity for your products. No less when you sell them without restriction.

natch2y ago

How do you propose any self driving system reach perfection without ever having a beta testing period?

And why not give drivers responsibility for maintaining safety?

Shouldn’t they try to be safe, and carry responsibility when they are fully in control?

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