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0 pointsseba_dos12y ago0 comments

Not sure how you got this part:

> So it wouldn't make sense that an observer in such a universe would exist to observe the simulation as he would be a system without the capability of observing anything outside of himself

I can easily simulate and observe systems without influencing them as they run. I may have the means to influence them, but it doesn't mean that I have to use them. In fact, many simulations in this world are performed for the exact purpose of inspecting what the end result is going to be without interfering while they're being run.

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friend_and_foe2y ago· 2 in thread

So in particular at a quantum level, simply observing something interferes with the outcome. Ignoring that, any system you set up will affect and be affected by the external world, such as heat transfer, light bouncing off of the system or it's components, electrical noise on a circuit, and it inherits the natural laws by which it's environment, the universe, is governed, such as the speed of light. You don't need to interfere, the system will be affected by it's environment, and stopping that from happening entirely is impossible.

seba_dos1OP2y ago

The simulator will be affected, but if it affects the simulation itself, it means the simulator is flawed.

friend_and_foe2y ago

A simulation running on a simulator will be affected by anything that affects the simulator. Electrical noise warping the speed at which the simulation happens, but flips from cosmic rays, even the hard latency due to the speed of light, all things that affect the simulation itself. It is unavoidable, some information about the real universe will leak into the simulation. So if we are a simulation, it is detectable, unless the bare metal universe allows for 0 entropy processes, in which case the simulation would likely be as unobservable from the universe as the universe is from within the simulation, which makes it not really a simulation at all.

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