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0 points0xDEAFBEAD2y ago0 comments

There's been a ton of criticism of Helen here in this thread and elsewhere, but I haven't seen anyone clearly articulate what Helen should have done. Everyone says she did the wrong thing, but no one has said what the right thing actually was.

Here's my guess: I think OpenAI should have prioritized character more in its hiring. Ending up with an organization full of employees who cared more about making money than upholding the charter was a mistake. Ultimately it's not enough for the people on the board to have character. The CEO and employees need to have character too.

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alvah2y ago

I don't know nearly enough about the OpenAI situation to suggest what she should have done (apart from "not help to press the self-destruct button," with the benefit of hindsight). However, I've read a bit about EA since the SBF debacle, and a childlike naivete does seem to be baked into the DNA of many of its followers.

0xDEAFBEADOP2y ago

You would prefer that $billions be managed by the same snakes in suits who destroy the environment, market products that give people lung cancer, etc.?

jxi2y ago

Is that worse than people who defraud and steal from users and hold entire companies hostage for their own motives?

In EA, the ends always justify the means, so that includes doing any or all of the things you mention if it achieves some ideological goal.

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alvah2y ago

You’re going to have to show me where I said that champ

leroy_masochist2y ago

> I think OpenAI should have prioritized character more in its hiring.

I think OpenAI should have prioritized sanity more in its board member selection.

0xDEAFBEADOP2y ago

Toner is unpopular on Twitter because a lot of people in Silicon Valley have a financial stake in OpenAI. For example, employees with equity have a strong financial incentive to discredit the board: https://nitter.net/JacquesThibs/status/1727134087176204410#m

Just because you're unpopular doesn't mean you're insane.

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alvah2y ago

0xDEAFBEADOP2y ago

You would prefer that $billions be managed by the same snakes in suits who destroy the environment, market products that give people lung cancer, etc.?

jxi2y ago

Is that worse than people who defraud and steal from users and hold entire companies hostage for their own motives?

In EA, the ends always justify the means, so that includes doing any or all of the things you mention if it achieves some ideological goal.

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alvah2y ago

You’re going to have to show me where I said that champ

leroy_masochist2y ago

> I think OpenAI should have prioritized character more in its hiring.

I think OpenAI should have prioritized sanity more in its board member selection.

0xDEAFBEADOP2y ago

Just because you're unpopular doesn't mean you're insane.

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