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0 pointsqmarchi2y ago0 comments

I understand the sentiment, but think about the alternatives.

There are a few different kinds of updates that can be applied, each with their own protective layers.

Infotainment updates, like what happened to Rivian aren't that dangerous. You lose "convienience features" like maps, air con, etc, but generally nothing that could kill you or someone else.

Then there's system updates, which is where danger noodle things happen. Automotive manufacturers are significantly more risk averse to updating these components, and generally, if _anything_ within the system looks wonky, it's an immediate revert.

If I, as a Polestar owner, wanted to get an update for my vehicle, the nearest service center is 1.5h away. If I lived in Montana (United States), it would be realistically impossible for me to update my car. Thus, if we want to enable competition within the markets, we shouldn't have regulations that force a new manufacturer to have a global network just to add CarPlay to a screen.

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mulmen2y ago

Dad has a 1966 Oldsmobile with air conditioning. In the last 57 years General Motors has never found a need to update the switch. It still works flawlessly.

It’s stupid that we invented a way to not only remotely break an on/off switch but also a culture that rolls the dice on that until the inevitable happens.

neoromantique2y ago

>Infotainment updates, like what happened to Rivian aren't that dangerous. You lose "convienience features" like maps, air con, etc, but generally nothing that could kill you or someone else.

Also speedometer, which is hardly a convenience feature.

fyrn_2y ago

The dashboard panel is working, at least according to Twitter updates. "Only" affects the infotainment console.

neoromantique2y ago

The reddit thread in official subreddit suggests otherwise, with people suggesting using 'speedometer apps' on their phones as a workaround.

I don't know, I have car from 1991 so I'm just observing the trainwreck.

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brewdad2y ago

Losing air con in Phoenix in July might not kill you but you'd wish you were dead.

j / k navigate · click thread line to collapse

0 pointsqmarchi2y ago0 comments

I understand the sentiment, but think about the alternatives.

There are a few different kinds of updates that can be applied, each with their own protective layers.

Infotainment updates, like what happened to Rivian aren't that dangerous. You lose "convienience features" like maps, air con, etc, but generally nothing that could kill you or someone else.

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mulmen2y ago

Dad has a 1966 Oldsmobile with air conditioning. In the last 57 years General Motors has never found a need to update the switch. It still works flawlessly.

It’s stupid that we invented a way to not only remotely break an on/off switch but also a culture that rolls the dice on that until the inevitable happens.

neoromantique2y ago

>Infotainment updates, like what happened to Rivian aren't that dangerous. You lose "convienience features" like maps, air con, etc, but generally nothing that could kill you or someone else.

Also speedometer, which is hardly a convenience feature.

fyrn_2y ago

The dashboard panel is working, at least according to Twitter updates. "Only" affects the infotainment console.

neoromantique2y ago

The reddit thread in official subreddit suggests otherwise, with people suggesting using 'speedometer apps' on their phones as a workaround.

I don't know, I have car from 1991 so I'm just observing the trainwreck.

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brewdad2y ago

Losing air con in Phoenix in July might not kill you but you'd wish you were dead.

j / k navigate · click thread line to collapse