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0 pointsgalangalalgol2y ago0 comments

It quite possibly could have with a well formed digital fm payload.

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We'll hopefully no car manufacturer is dumb enough that the FM radio software can affect vehicle control functions but I wouldn't be surprised ..

aftbit2y ago

I'm pretty sure they are all dumb enough for this. This is why people can steal (modern) cars by ripping a headlight out and accessing the CAN bus through the gap.

https://kentindell.github.io/2023/04/03/can-injection/

AIUI the military uses "CAN bus firewalls" to prevent this. There is also some sort of encrypted/authenticated CAN bus protocol in the works. Neither are common in production cars as of 2022 or so, though they may be soon enough.

lttlrck2y ago

Encrypted/authenticated CAN sounds like "Apple component pairing coming to car near you". No thanks.

aftbit2y ago

Honestly we need a law that says that _all_ keys used in your car (software and physical) need to be given to you. This should include the keys to sign the updates, manage the CAN networks, etc.

Even ignoring the automaker lobby's inevitable opposition, this would never happen because one could use it to defeat things like emissions controls or the coming anti-impairment technology[1].

1: https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-joe-biden-te...

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cozzyd2y ago

We'll hopefully no car manufacturer is dumb enough that the FM radio software can affect vehicle control functions but I wouldn't be surprised ..

aftbit2y ago

I'm pretty sure they are all dumb enough for this. This is why people can steal (modern) cars by ripping a headlight out and accessing the CAN bus through the gap.

https://kentindell.github.io/2023/04/03/can-injection/

lttlrck2y ago

Encrypted/authenticated CAN sounds like "Apple component pairing coming to car near you". No thanks.

aftbit2y ago

Honestly we need a law that says that _all_ keys used in your car (software and physical) need to be given to you. This should include the keys to sign the updates, manage the CAN networks, etc.

Even ignoring the automaker lobby's inevitable opposition, this would never happen because one could use it to defeat things like emissions controls or the coming anti-impairment technology[1].

1: https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-joe-biden-te...

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