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0 pointsplugin-baby2y ago0 comments

> If a house is unlocked and you go in to prove it's unlocked, maybe leave a helpful note, you're still breaking in.

What jurisdiction? I would think this was just trespass.

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pilchard1232y ago· 3 in thread

IIRC some jurisdictions consider any force at all - such as pushing an already-open door further open - to be sufficient to make it B&E rather than simply trespassing.

plugin-babyOP2y ago

Force isn’t even required in some places, apparently!

This page expands on the differences in a few countries: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burglary

Canada

> Breaking and entering is defined as breaking into a place with intent to commit another indictable offence

England & Wales

> A person is guilty of burglary if they enter any building or part of a building as a trespasser with intent to steal, inflict grievous bodily harm or do unlawful damage to the building or anything in it.

New Zealand

> burglary is a statute offence under section 231 of the Crimes Act 1961. Originally this was a codification of the common law offence, though from October 2004 the break element was removed from the definition and entry into the building (or ship), or a part of it, now only needed to be unauthorised.

scotty792y ago

It seems that in many places intent to commit another crime is a key.

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lost_tourist2y ago

yeah, usually you get a forceful entry charge in addition. You can't just walk into someone's house even if their door is ajar or unlocked. I'm not sure if cracking it and say asking "is anyone here?", My guess it involves actually stepping into the house, for example you're worried about a neighbor if his door is standing open

lost_tourist2y ago

Stepping on someone's land marked as "no trespassing" is one thing (and a big thing) in the USA, just walking into someone's house, is B&E if the person wants the yokels to press charges and you didn't have permission. I assume the same is true for cybercrime, especially if you're using the system in a way it wasn't meant to be, especially if it causes damage of some sort.

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