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0 pointsjohannes12343212y ago0 comments

True the average person can't do that.

However there are many organisations who can analyze different aspects from different perspectives and pull out consumable information from it.

By having the raw material available this then can be cross-ckecked. If it's kept secret you need complete trust.

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entropicdrifter2y ago

Unfortunately there are several times as many organizations who will take an undecipherable wall of text as an excuse to push their pre-existing beliefs and agendas with cherry-picked out of context quotes, intentionally misleading interpretations, and bad faith arguments.

Bad faith actors would use it and a pile of techniques used mainly by religions and cults in order to try to seize power.

saghm2y ago

Sure, but they do that anyways, and it's not like holding the documents in secrecy is somehow crippling the ability of bad-faith actors to act in bad faith. If anything, it allows them to claim things _without_ good faith actors being able to scrutinize their claims.

johannes1234321OP2y ago

You don't need documents to tell lies. You can invent arbitrary secret sources. However you need documents to disprove lies.

2OEH8eoCRo02y ago

I for one do not wish to give America's enemies access to all of our classified information.

johannes1234321OP2y ago

For that it's too late.

The docetns are at British The Guardian and German Der Spiegel and the person extracting those initially sits in Russia and who knows who got copies or extracted them.

2OEH8eoCRo02y ago

> Russian parliament’s defense and security committee publicly conceded that “Snowden did share intelligence” with his government.

https://intelligence.house.gov/uploadedfiles/hpsci_snowden_r...

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0 pointsjohannes12343212y ago0 comments

True the average person can't do that.

However there are many organisations who can analyze different aspects from different perspectives and pull out consumable information from it.

By having the raw material available this then can be cross-ckecked. If it's kept secret you need complete trust.

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entropicdrifter2y ago

Bad faith actors would use it and a pile of techniques used mainly by religions and cults in order to try to seize power.

saghm2y ago

johannes1234321OP2y ago

You don't need documents to tell lies. You can invent arbitrary secret sources. However you need documents to disprove lies.

2OEH8eoCRo02y ago

I for one do not wish to give America's enemies access to all of our classified information.

johannes1234321OP2y ago

For that it's too late.

The docetns are at British The Guardian and German Der Spiegel and the person extracting those initially sits in Russia and who knows who got copies or extracted them.

2OEH8eoCRo02y ago

> Russian parliament’s defense and security committee publicly conceded that “Snowden did share intelligence” with his government.

https://intelligence.house.gov/uploadedfiles/hpsci_snowden_r...

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