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0 pointshajile2y ago0 comments

Next year isn't great timing as they'll be going up against Qualcomm's new Oryon CPU which looks to be both powerful and tiny (165mm2 with 12 full-size cores).

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onli2y ago· 3 in thread

Will we have a working ARM Windows version next year? A translation layer in Windows and Linux to run x86 apps, like games? If not, and I think we won't, then the Qualcomm chip won't be a relevant alternative to the Ryzen processor.

pinkgolem2y ago

that translation layer on windows exists, its just has pretty shit perfomance last time i checked it out.

https://learn.microsoft.com/de-de/windows/arm/apps-on-arm-x8...

In linux you have a pretty good support for just recompiling everything as native arm binarys, atleast server side it works without any problems for me.

onli2y ago

I ran into problems with that on the server back then, but always only some edge cases - so that might work mostly now. But mentioning games was no accident - a slow translation layer won't cut it for them, and you can't recompile proprietary games. We have steam on Linux -> not supporting them is a non-starter.

Worked for apple because they had no relevant gaming market share to begin with, and their translation layer actually worked well.

hajileOP2y ago

Native devs need to start always cross-compiling their apps for multiple ISAs from the start. Outside of a very tiny amount writing their own SIMD assembly, this isn't usually a huge deal.

WASM is also finally becoming a decent solution to not just cross-ISA, but cross-platform too. It's not yet performant enough for everything, but even among native stuff, I'd guess it's good enough for most.

wmf2y ago

Strix Point sounds pretty close to Oryon.

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