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0 pointskonschubert2y ago0 comments

As a European, this is so embarrassing to read.

The US is one of the oldest democracies on earth.

"You can give the government infinite power, we will do a revolution, no big deal."

Do you have any idea with how much suffering each revolution has been paid for?

And remind me again how the revolutionaries overthrew Nazi Germany?

The sowjet bloc created decades of suffering and blood but according to you that's fine because we can take them "down by force from time to time"?

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mrtksn2y ago

Who said anything about giving government infinite power?

It's just difference of attitudes. Europeans tend to trust the government more than the corporations.

No need for ridiculous examples, for every bad politician example there exist a bad corporation example. You say nazis, I say Bhopal disaster. No need for that, at least the Nazis payed dearly for it. Corporations are unaccountable.

>And remind me again how the revolutionaries overthrew Nazi Germany?

Remind me how the Nazis are doing these days?

JAlexoid2y ago

> Europeans tend to trust the government more than the corporations.

For some really stupid reason, but yes. We shouldn't trust our governments as much as we do.

> at least the Nazis payed dearly for it

If you mean most of Europe paid dearly for that, then yes.

> Remind me how the Nazis are doing these days?

Surprisingly well and some are even on the rise, why do you ask?

themacguffinman2y ago

Wow, I guess 6MM ethnic genocide and a world war is comparable to a ~600k casualty chemical spill because at least we punished the Nazis more, I suppose that makes all the difference.

What a perfect comparison for how toothless corporations are compared to governments.

Americans don't think politicians are a different breed of people, they treat them differently because their position in government gives them a lot more power and impact than corporations.

> Who said anything about giving government infinite power?

Infinite power is an exaggeration but EU governments are giving themselves broad surveillance powers while directing your attention at behavioral advertising.

mrtksn2y ago

The sad thing about the holocaust is that it was a popular endeavor. It still wasn’t the case of some nazis unrelated to the German public taking over the power and doing something that Germans didn’t want.

Being done by the government and not by a company doesn’t change a thing. Maybe except that if it was a company, they would have monetize it better I guess.

Antisemitism was and sadly is very widespread in Europe.

konschubertOP2y ago

Okay I think we’re done here.

mrtksn2y ago

I hope so, I'm not in mood to deal with angry people online.

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0 pointskonschubert2y ago0 comments

As a European, this is so embarrassing to read.

The US is one of the oldest democracies on earth.

"You can give the government infinite power, we will do a revolution, no big deal."

Do you have any idea with how much suffering each revolution has been paid for?

And remind me again how the revolutionaries overthrew Nazi Germany?

The sowjet bloc created decades of suffering and blood but according to you that's fine because we can take them "down by force from time to time"?

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mrtksn2y ago

Who said anything about giving government infinite power?

It's just difference of attitudes. Europeans tend to trust the government more than the corporations.

>And remind me again how the revolutionaries overthrew Nazi Germany?

Remind me how the Nazis are doing these days?

JAlexoid2y ago

> Europeans tend to trust the government more than the corporations.

For some really stupid reason, but yes. We shouldn't trust our governments as much as we do.

> at least the Nazis payed dearly for it

If you mean most of Europe paid dearly for that, then yes.

> Remind me how the Nazis are doing these days?

Surprisingly well and some are even on the rise, why do you ask?

themacguffinman2y ago

Wow, I guess 6MM ethnic genocide and a world war is comparable to a ~600k casualty chemical spill because at least we punished the Nazis more, I suppose that makes all the difference.

What a perfect comparison for how toothless corporations are compared to governments.

Americans don't think politicians are a different breed of people, they treat them differently because their position in government gives them a lot more power and impact than corporations.

> Who said anything about giving government infinite power?

Infinite power is an exaggeration but EU governments are giving themselves broad surveillance powers while directing your attention at behavioral advertising.

mrtksn2y ago

Being done by the government and not by a company doesn’t change a thing. Maybe except that if it was a company, they would have monetize it better I guess.

Antisemitism was and sadly is very widespread in Europe.

konschubertOP2y ago

Okay I think we’re done here.

mrtksn2y ago

I hope so, I'm not in mood to deal with angry people online.

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