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0 pointskwanbix2y ago0 comments

So what you need to do is regulate what they can do with the data, not forbid personalized ads.

By the way, here in Europe we have universal healthcare, maybe is something the US should consider?

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Is there any good reason not to both legally protect privacy and ban the largest part of the market for the invasively collected data (which seems to me to fall nearly under regulating what can be done with the data)?

kwanbixOP2y ago

Are you willing to pay for all internet websites then?

mcv2y ago

Banning personalised ads does not mean banning all ads. Although personally, I'm no fan of any kind of ads, and I wouldn't mind if the entire ad industry disappeared.

And if that means ad-driven websites disappear too, I don't see that as a big loss. The best websites are not ad-driven.

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thfuran2y ago

I think the prevalence of free-to-use websites is a collosal market failure. They're a massive distortion to markets, far bigger than Uber running around losing billions a year, and they also put their thumbs on the scale more directly by deciding that certain things/topics can't be advertised or advertised on.

xigoi2y ago

Many websites don't have ads, and I'd be happy if all others disappeared.

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RestlessMind2y ago

Only a minority of the world population has universal healthcare. There is a big world outside of Europe and the US and most of it lacks healthcare. Maybe we should focus on the first order problem (for this thread) rather than trying to bring universal healthcare to the entire world (impossible in our lifetime).

drcongo2y ago

We don't have universal life insurance in Europe though, maybe think things through a bit. Your arguments are so thin and bad faith that I'm convinced you're just trolling now.

kwanbixOP2y ago

What do you mean? Of course we have universal healthcare, at least in Germany we have, and in Spain also, same for Switzerland, and Netherlands.

But is funny, people want all (most?) things free, nobody wants to pay for news for example, but they don't want ads at the same time.

Makes no sense at all.

drcongo2y ago

> What do you mean? Of course we have universal healthcare, at least in Germany we have, and in Spain also, same for Switzerland, and Netherlands.

Healthcare != life insurance - they're very different things. Are you deliberately conflating them because it suits your argument?

> But is funny, people want all (most?) things free, nobody wants to pay for news for example, but they don't want ads at the same time.

Again, you're conflating two groups of people because it suits your internal narrative and makes you feel superior. I don't want ads, but I'm happy to pay for things, and I'm also happy to just not use a service that wants to spy on me and sell my data like YouTube and Facebook. According to your statement I don't exist.

> Makes no sense at all.

That's because you've made it all up.

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thfuran2y ago

kwanbixOP2y ago

Are you willing to pay for all internet websites then?

mcv2y ago

Banning personalised ads does not mean banning all ads. Although personally, I'm no fan of any kind of ads, and I wouldn't mind if the entire ad industry disappeared.

And if that means ad-driven websites disappear too, I don't see that as a big loss. The best websites are not ad-driven.

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thfuran2y ago

xigoi2y ago

Many websites don't have ads, and I'd be happy if all others disappeared.

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RestlessMind2y ago

drcongo2y ago

We don't have universal life insurance in Europe though, maybe think things through a bit. Your arguments are so thin and bad faith that I'm convinced you're just trolling now.

kwanbixOP2y ago

What do you mean? Of course we have universal healthcare, at least in Germany we have, and in Spain also, same for Switzerland, and Netherlands.

But is funny, people want all (most?) things free, nobody wants to pay for news for example, but they don't want ads at the same time.

Makes no sense at all.

drcongo2y ago

> What do you mean? Of course we have universal healthcare, at least in Germany we have, and in Spain also, same for Switzerland, and Netherlands.

Healthcare != life insurance - they're very different things. Are you deliberately conflating them because it suits your argument?

> But is funny, people want all (most?) things free, nobody wants to pay for news for example, but they don't want ads at the same time.

> Makes no sense at all.

That's because you've made it all up.

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