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0 pointscoldtea2y ago0 comments

>So essentially, the situation you'd have if you'd bought a Mac?

No, worse, with more device incompatibilities, manual fiddling, arcane settings, and so on to make things work.

>Sure, if you have a Mac and disable SIP (or whatever it's called nowadays) and start mucking around with files in /System or whatever, because you want to install some mod that does something cool, you might have a bad time.

Sure, but I'm not talking about that. With Linux you often have a bad time trying to make basic, but not distro configured, functionality to work.

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fsflover2y ago

> with more device incompatibilities, manual fiddling

Did you read what I wrote above? "if you buy preinstalled"

If you install Linux on an ordinary "Windows-certified" computer, you will have problems. If you install an alternative OS on a Macbook, you will have exactly the same problems.

coldteaOP2y ago

>Did you read what I wrote above? "if you buy preinstalled"

And did you understand my point? Buying preinstalled isn't a cure-all, only ensures that the bundled hardware drivers are compatible and configured. That's a pretty low bar.

It doesn't cover doing stuff with third party devices (which on the Mac 99% of the time it works every time).

Not to mention even the bundled-hardware doesn't always work even if you buy pre-installed (like the laptop not sleeping properly for example).

fsflover2y ago

> Not to mention even the bundled-hardware doesn't always work even if you buy pre-installed (like the laptop not sleeping properly for example).

I agree that this is not tolerable. However my devices from Purism have a reliable sleep and other functionality out of the box.

> third party devices

Check Linux compatibility before buying and they will work reliably. Works for me.

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0 pointscoldtea2y ago0 comments

>So essentially, the situation you'd have if you'd bought a Mac?

No, worse, with more device incompatibilities, manual fiddling, arcane settings, and so on to make things work.

Sure, but I'm not talking about that. With Linux you often have a bad time trying to make basic, but not distro configured, functionality to work.

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fsflover2y ago

> with more device incompatibilities, manual fiddling

Did you read what I wrote above? "if you buy preinstalled"

If you install Linux on an ordinary "Windows-certified" computer, you will have problems. If you install an alternative OS on a Macbook, you will have exactly the same problems.

coldteaOP2y ago

>Did you read what I wrote above? "if you buy preinstalled"

And did you understand my point? Buying preinstalled isn't a cure-all, only ensures that the bundled hardware drivers are compatible and configured. That's a pretty low bar.

It doesn't cover doing stuff with third party devices (which on the Mac 99% of the time it works every time).

Not to mention even the bundled-hardware doesn't always work even if you buy pre-installed (like the laptop not sleeping properly for example).

fsflover2y ago

> Not to mention even the bundled-hardware doesn't always work even if you buy pre-installed (like the laptop not sleeping properly for example).

I agree that this is not tolerable. However my devices from Purism have a reliable sleep and other functionality out of the box.

> third party devices

Check Linux compatibility before buying and they will work reliably. Works for me.

j / k navigate · click thread line to collapse