undefined | Better HN

0 pointslproven2y ago0 comments

> I think it's already flawless.

It's behind even Edge on features, let alone Vivaldi or something.

• No integrated option for vertical tabs

• No integrated ad-block (I know there are reasons but still)

• They broke the old extensions system, and its replacement is inferior

• Bundled development tools 99.9% of users don't want or need

• Built in Win98 era profile handling when this is the OS' job

• Can't sync toolbar settings or search engines

(as per discussion here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38048385 )

• Needs custom stylesheets to even hide the immovable built in tab bar

• Needs `about:config` tweaks to enable custom stylesheets

In re the last 2: FFS this is meant to be the customisable FOSS tool here!

0 comments

3 comments · 2 top-level

rewmie2y ago· 1 in thread

I'm sorry to say but your list sounds like the poster child of desperate nitpicking.

Complaining that Firefox provides development tools when all major browsers also ship with those it's simply absurd.

So is complaining about lack of an integrated adblock when Firefox was the one who created that feature and allowed any third party to roll their own.

Whining about vague complains about profile handling when Firefox made it trivial to run multiple profiles perfectly independently as separate processes, and even to pick and choose which profile to run at app start.

And the peak of absurdity is complaining that Firefox is customizable and allows you to do stuff no one in the world cares about.

There are plenty of reasons why feature requests are triaged, and your post is a poster child of absurd feature requests.

lprovenOP2y ago

> Complaining that Firefox provides development tools when all major browsers also ship with those it's simply absurd.

No it is not, and here is why.

1. How many developers work on Firefox? Chrome & Chrome or Webkit-based browsers are already some 95% of the market.

Citation: https://gs.statcounter.com/browser-market-share

It is borderline irresponsible to work on Firefox now. Test on it, yes. Develop on it, no.

2. There is already a developer edition: https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/developer/

I am just arguing that more functionality needs to be moved to that from the ordinary mass-market edition.

> So is complaining about lack of an integrated adblock when Firefox was the one who created that feature and allowed any third party to roll their own.

No it isn't. It's a feature of competing products. I am arguing Firefox should be the power users' tool. So replicate the key functions the competition have.

> Whining about vague complains about profile handling

Dude, if you don't understand it that doesn't mean it's vague.

When the Mozilla suite was developed, the main Windows OS was Windows 95, which did not come with a browser. IE was not only an add-on it was a paid-for extra.

Now the OS provides profiles and functional separation. Lean on it, make the default edition as small and as fast as possible. Less is more.

> And the peak of absurdity is complaining that Firefox is customizable

Again, ISTM you don't understand me. I am saying it's still more customisable than Chrome and they should lean in to this. Don't make it necessary to frig `about:config` and add a config file to move a freakin' toolbar. This is not a hard point.

> and allows you to do stuff no one in the world cares about.

So you don't know how to customise your browser. I do. I care. I did my research.

E.g. citing the Classic Addons Archive:

« 19,450 Firefox add-ons created by 14,274 developers »

https://github.com/JustOff/ca-archive

A lot of people care a lot. 15,000 developers falsifies your ludicrous "no one in the world cares about.

Like many others, you are mixing up "I don't care" with "nobody cares", and you are wrong.

afjeafaj8482y ago

Like 99% of people don't care about any of these

Why does HN always assume everyone is a power user

j / k navigate · click thread line to collapse