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I don't use google search (most of the time) as it's inferior - it ignores what I'm searching for, and substitutes what it thinks I should be searching for - and it's been doing that for years. There were free search engines before there were ads.

I don't use gmail because why would anyone want to use gmail for anything but temporary throwaways that'll get spammed.

I don't use google maps. nokia heremaps and openstreetmap (I use magic earth) are better in most ways, worse in others. When I go to a different country, I click "download country" and have a fully searchable map. No, I don't want a map that needs a data connection. No, I don't want to have to visually search the map for the thing I'm looking for, because someone barfed up a salad of dots that are place ads for things unrelated to my search. Google maps is not usable to anyone who has used something else. People who always use google maps don't know any better.

I do use google translate. This does not support your argument, because that's a service that is free, and does not display ads. You saying that the current ad-free service will disappear if ads were blocked from it... Can't make the comment on here that I want to make, so I'll let you imagine <words>

Youtube... Who give a crap. There were sites with videos before, there are other sites now. No, no one can host a huge expensive platform like that for free. So how about the people posting stuff, pay for their stuff being hosted. Then those people can inline talking ads or put a coke can on their desk, in their videos. You know, how ads in videos have been done since the existence of the video format, in 1920 all the way up to right now.

Google products, google customer service, and google the company, are inferior to the competition in almost every way. Except for google translate. Which again - has no ads.

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akoboldfrying2y ago

>No, I don't want a map that needs a data connection.

Google Maps has had the ability to download maps for offline use as long as I can remember -- at least since 2013.

>This does not support your argument, because that's a service that is free, and does not display ads.

All Google services are ad-supported, at least indirectly. That's because Google pays for their development and upkeep, and Google's primary income stream is ads.

leventonporteraOP2y ago

So when I go to Australia I can click "download Australia" in google maps before I board my flight? Or does it still let you only download a little zoom square like it did in the year 2013 to which you are referring? Does search work in those maps as it Didn't back then? I specifically gave an example, you then purposely ignored most of what I wrote to create a claim I did not make, and then said that claim is false. Do you do this often? Word on advice - this works on fox news where people only see the out-of-context sentence. It does not work when the people who read your reply, first have to read what I actually wrote.

Now, speaking of reading, I unfortunately stopped reading after your first sentence. This is because you immediately made it clear you are not communicating in good faith.

You have a good day, and enjoy winning all those arguments you yourself made up. The adults in the room ignore people like you and just move on.

akoboldfrying2y ago

Thanks for not overreacting, or conveniently misinterpreting my comment.

>I specifically gave an example, you then purposely ignored most of what I wrote to create a claim I did not make

No. Your next sentence implicitly claims that Google Maps is unable to download maps in general, and I succinctly contradicted this claim. Google Maps is able to download maps, but there are size limits, and Australia is much too big for it to download in a single offline map. True, it would be more convenient if it could download the entire country -- but wouldn't those other apps likewise be more convenient if they could download entire continents, or even the entire world at once? Why can't they? I haven't found the offline map size limit in Google Maps a hindrance in practice, and I've relied on it all over the world for years.

In case you've bravely shrugged off the mountains of bad faith that you have no doubt uncovered in this reply so far, and are still reading: Search works on downloaded maps, though only for car trips (not public transport or walking).

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akoboldfrying2y ago

>No, I don't want a map that needs a data connection.

Google Maps has had the ability to download maps for offline use as long as I can remember -- at least since 2013.

>This does not support your argument, because that's a service that is free, and does not display ads.

All Google services are ad-supported, at least indirectly. That's because Google pays for their development and upkeep, and Google's primary income stream is ads.

leventonporteraOP2y ago

Now, speaking of reading, I unfortunately stopped reading after your first sentence. This is because you immediately made it clear you are not communicating in good faith.

You have a good day, and enjoy winning all those arguments you yourself made up. The adults in the room ignore people like you and just move on.

akoboldfrying2y ago

Thanks for not overreacting, or conveniently misinterpreting my comment.

>I specifically gave an example, you then purposely ignored most of what I wrote to create a claim I did not make

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