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0 pointsrepelsteeltje2y ago0 comments

Maybe you were. :-) And maybe this is not for you or me (I haven't contacted their sales, yet) it's not for everyone.

Personally, I have always been annoyed that the BIOS is clunky and every change requires a reboot, taking several minutes. As computers got faster over the years, this has gotten worse, not better. At the core of cloud economics is elasticity: don't pay for a service that you don't use. Wouldn't it be great to power down an idle server, knowing that it can be switched on seconds before you actually need it?

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steve19772y ago

> Wouldn't it be great to power down an idle server, knowing that it can be switched on seconds before you actually need it?

considering you would still need to boot the VMs then, once the Oxide system is up, I’m not sure if this is such a big win.

And at a certain scale you’d probably have something like multiple systems and VMware vMotion or alternatives anyway. So if the ESXi host (for example) takes a while to boot, I wouldn’t care too much.

And, economics of elasticity - you’d still have to buy the Oxide server, even if it’s idle.

repelsteeltjeOP2y ago

> considering you would still need to boot the VMs then, once the Oxide system is up, I’m not sure if this is such a big win.

To be honoust, I'm using containers most of the time these days but even the full blown windows VMs I'm orchestrating boot in less than 20s, assuming the hypervisor is operational. I think that's about on par with public cloud, no?

> [...] vMotion [...] ESXi.

Is VMware still a thing? Started with virsh, kvm/qemu a decade ago and never looked back.

> And, economics of elasticity - you’d still have to buy the Oxide server, even if it’s idle.

That's a big part of the equation indeed. This is where hyperscalers have an advantage that Oxide at some point in the future might enjoy as well. Interesting to see how much of that they will be willing to share with their customers...

steve19772y ago

Re VMware, it’s certainly still a thing in enterprise environments. Can kvm do things like live migration in the meantime? For me it’s the other way round, haven’t looked into that for a while ;)

How do you mean Oxide might have that advantage as well in the future? As I understand, you have to buy hardware from them?

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0 pointsrepelsteeltje2y ago0 comments

Maybe you were. :-) And maybe this is not for you or me (I haven't contacted their sales, yet) it's not for everyone.

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steve19772y ago

> Wouldn't it be great to power down an idle server, knowing that it can be switched on seconds before you actually need it?

considering you would still need to boot the VMs then, once the Oxide system is up, I’m not sure if this is such a big win.

And, economics of elasticity - you’d still have to buy the Oxide server, even if it’s idle.

repelsteeltjeOP2y ago

> considering you would still need to boot the VMs then, once the Oxide system is up, I’m not sure if this is such a big win.

> [...] vMotion [...] ESXi.

Is VMware still a thing? Started with virsh, kvm/qemu a decade ago and never looked back.

> And, economics of elasticity - you’d still have to buy the Oxide server, even if it’s idle.

steve19772y ago

How do you mean Oxide might have that advantage as well in the future? As I understand, you have to buy hardware from them?

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